RE: [Zope] Searching for and displaying properties

[Sinang, Danny]

> manage_addProperty does not trigger recataloguing of the object even
if its a subclass of CatalogAwareness. You should ? > either call
> obj.reindex_object() or at least obj.index_object(), if your class has
the CatalogAwareness-Mixin or you use the catalog > API:

> yourcatalog.catalog_object(obj,obj.absolute_url_path())

> After that, your metadata should show up nicely w/o indexing the whole
object tree.

Thanks Tino.

I'd like to try your suggestion, but I don't know how to refer to the
object that needs recataloguing. Can you help ? Again, here's my code
that calls manage_addProperty.



wf = context.GeneralWorkflow
instance_id = wf.addInstance( process_id=process, customer=jobname,
comments=comment, title=subject, activation=1)
wf.getInstance(instance_id).manage_addProperty('jobname', 'ABC12345',
'string')



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Re: [Zope] No joy on 8080.

[Ignacio Valdes]

Here is my event.log file:

2006-06-25T21:12:21 INFO ZServer HTTP server started at Sun Jun 25 
21:12:21 2006

Hostname: dune
Port: 8080
--
2006-06-25T21:12:23 WARNING ZODB Could not import class 
'PlacelessTranslationService' from module 
'Products.PlacelessTranslationServic

e.PlacelessTranslationService'
--
2006-06-25T21:12:24 INFO Zope Ready to handle requests

-- IV

On Sun, 25 Jun 2006 22:31:20 -0400
 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Search up the log and see if zope's setup on 8080 (per the zope.conf 
file, btw)

maybe it's on a different port.
Do you have tomcat also install (i think iirc that it would also use 
port 80)
I'd also try"localhost" or check your host file for your machine 
name, or a real ip addres..


http://10.0.0.1:8080/manage for instance.

hth
bobb


- Original Message - From: "Ignacio Valdes" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "thomas desvenain" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; 

Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2006 9:37 PM
Subject: Re: [Zope] No joy on 8080.



Yes. -- IV

On Sun, 25 Jun 2006 21:30:58 -0400
 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
do you see "zope  ready to handle requests"? at the end of the log 
(meaning your startup is  good?)


- Original Message - From: "Ignacio Valdes" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "thomas desvenain" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; 

Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2006 9:04 PM
Subject: Re: [Zope] No joy on 8080.


I did see in event.log that hostname was 0.0.0.0 and I added 
ip-address 129.106.nospam.nospam to it and it now recognizes the 
hostname in the event.log file. Unfortunately, that doesn't change 
anything, it still doesn't seem to respond to 
http://129.106.nospam.nospam:8080 in a browser.


-- IV

On Sun, 25 Jun 2006 20:49:23 -0400
 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Do you see anything in your logs?

- Original Message - From: "Ignacio Valdes" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "thomas desvenain" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; 
Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2006 7:18 PM
Subject: Re: [Zope] No joy on 8080.


Thanks, effective-user is zope and it appears to own the directories 
pertaining to zope. I restarted it using /etc/rc.d/init.d/zope 
restart 
but I still don't get anything on 8080. -- IV


On Mon, 26 Jun 2006 01:01:24 +0200
 "thomas desvenain" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
i had this problem : i forgot giving to zope server's 
"effective-user" the

rights on zope instance directory

(effective-user name is defined in zopeinstance/etc/zope.conf)

2006/6/26, Ignacio Valdes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:


Hello all,

I installed Zope on Fedora Core 5 using yum install zope, I opened
port 8080 with lokkit, then I started it up using zopectl start. 
This

is all on a headless server by ssh so I can't check
http://localhost:8080 but http://server ip address:8080 on my 
browser

doesn't work. I do have xampp apache running as well and can get the
xampp welcome screen to appear but with xampp apache started or
stopped http://server ip address:8080 doesn't do anything. I'm 
baffled

as to what to do next. What should I try?

Thanks!

-- IV
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Re: [Zope] No joy on 8080.

[rawsystems]

Search up the log and see if zope's setup on 8080 (per the zope.conf file, 
btw)

maybe it's on a different port.
Do you have tomcat also install (i think iirc that it would also use port 
80)
I'd also try"localhost" or check your host file for your machine name, or a 
real ip addres..


http://10.0.0.1:8080/manage for instance.

hth
bobb


- Original Message - 
From: "Ignacio Valdes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "thomas desvenain" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; 


Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2006 9:37 PM
Subject: Re: [Zope] No joy on 8080.



Yes. -- IV

On Sun, 25 Jun 2006 21:30:58 -0400
 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
do you see "zope  ready to handle requests"? at the end of the log 
(meaning your startup is  good?)


- Original Message - From: "Ignacio Valdes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "thomas desvenain" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; 

Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2006 9:04 PM
Subject: Re: [Zope] No joy on 8080.


I did see in event.log that hostname was 0.0.0.0 and I added ip-address 
129.106.nospam.nospam to it and it now recognizes the hostname in the 
event.log file. Unfortunately, that doesn't change anything, it still 
doesn't seem to respond to http://129.106.nospam.nospam:8080 in a 
browser.


-- IV

On Sun, 25 Jun 2006 20:49:23 -0400
 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Do you see anything in your logs?

- Original Message - From: "Ignacio Valdes" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "thomas desvenain" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; 
Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2006 7:18 PM
Subject: Re: [Zope] No joy on 8080.


Thanks, effective-user is zope and it appears to own the directories 
pertaining to zope. I restarted it using /etc/rc.d/init.d/zope restart 
but I still don't get anything on 8080. -- IV


On Mon, 26 Jun 2006 01:01:24 +0200
 "thomas desvenain" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
i had this problem : i forgot giving to zope server's 
"effective-user" the

rights on zope instance directory

(effective-user name is defined in zopeinstance/etc/zope.conf)

2006/6/26, Ignacio Valdes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:


Hello all,

I installed Zope on Fedora Core 5 using yum install zope, I opened
port 8080 with lokkit, then I started it up using zopectl start. 
This

is all on a headless server by ssh so I can't check
http://localhost:8080 but http://server ip address:8080 on my 
browser

doesn't work. I do have xampp apache running as well and can get the
xampp welcome screen to appear but with xampp apache started or
stopped http://server ip address:8080 doesn't do anything. I'm 
baffled

as to what to do next. What should I try?

Thanks!

-- IV
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78350 Jouy en Josas
0134652943


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Re: [Zope] No joy on 8080.

[Ignacio Valdes]

Yes. -- IV

On Sun, 25 Jun 2006 21:30:58 -0400
 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
do you see "zope  ready to handle requests"? at the end of the log 
(meaning your startup is  good?)


- Original Message - From: "Ignacio Valdes" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "thomas desvenain" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; 

Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2006 9:04 PM
Subject: Re: [Zope] No joy on 8080.


I did see in event.log that hostname was 0.0.0.0 and I added 
ip-address 129.106.nospam.nospam to it and it now recognizes the 
hostname in the event.log file. Unfortunately, that doesn't change 
anything, it still doesn't seem to respond to 
http://129.106.nospam.nospam:8080 in a browser.


-- IV

On Sun, 25 Jun 2006 20:49:23 -0400
 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Do you see anything in your logs?

- Original Message - From: "Ignacio Valdes" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "thomas desvenain" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; 
Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2006 7:18 PM
Subject: Re: [Zope] No joy on 8080.


Thanks, effective-user is zope and it appears to own the directories 
pertaining to zope. I restarted it using /etc/rc.d/init.d/zope 
restart 
but I still don't get anything on 8080. -- IV


On Mon, 26 Jun 2006 01:01:24 +0200
 "thomas desvenain" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
i had this problem : i forgot giving to zope server's 
"effective-user" 
the

rights on zope instance directory

(effective-user name is defined in zopeinstance/etc/zope.conf)

2006/6/26, Ignacio Valdes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:


Hello all,

I installed Zope on Fedora Core 5 using yum install zope, I opened
port 8080 with lokkit, then I started it up using zopectl start. 
This

is all on a headless server by ssh so I can't check
http://localhost:8080 but http://server ip address:8080 on my 
browser

doesn't work. I do have xampp apache running as well and can get the
xampp welcome screen to appear but with xampp apache started or
stopped http://server ip address:8080 doesn't do anything. I'm 
baffled

as to what to do next. What should I try?

Thanks!

-- IV
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Mathématiques, Informatique et Génôme laboratory
78350 Jouy en Josas
0134652943


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Re: [Zope] No joy on 8080.

[rawsystems]

do you see "zope  ready to handle requests"? at the end of the log (meaning 
your startup is  good?)


- Original Message - 
From: "Ignacio Valdes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "thomas desvenain" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; 


Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2006 9:04 PM
Subject: Re: [Zope] No joy on 8080.


I did see in event.log that hostname was 0.0.0.0 and I added ip-address 
129.106.nospam.nospam to it and it now recognizes the hostname in the 
event.log file. Unfortunately, that doesn't change anything, it still 
doesn't seem to respond to http://129.106.nospam.nospam:8080 in a browser.


-- IV

On Sun, 25 Jun 2006 20:49:23 -0400
 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Do you see anything in your logs?

- Original Message - From: "Ignacio Valdes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "thomas desvenain" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; 
Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2006 7:18 PM
Subject: Re: [Zope] No joy on 8080.


Thanks, effective-user is zope and it appears to own the directories 
pertaining to zope. I restarted it using /etc/rc.d/init.d/zope restart 
but I still don't get anything on 8080. -- IV


On Mon, 26 Jun 2006 01:01:24 +0200
 "thomas desvenain" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
i had this problem : i forgot giving to zope server's "effective-user" 
the

rights on zope instance directory

(effective-user name is defined in zopeinstance/etc/zope.conf)

2006/6/26, Ignacio Valdes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:


Hello all,

I installed Zope on Fedora Core 5 using yum install zope, I opened
port 8080 with lokkit, then I started it up using zopectl start. This
is all on a headless server by ssh so I can't check
http://localhost:8080 but http://server ip address:8080 on my browser
doesn't work. I do have xampp apache running as well and can get the
xampp welcome screen to appear but with xampp apache started or
stopped http://server ip address:8080 doesn't do anything. I'm baffled
as to what to do next. What should I try?

Thanks!

-- IV
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Now, trainee at Institut National de Recherche Agronomique
Mathématiques, Informatique et Génôme laboratory
78350 Jouy en Josas
0134652943


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Re: [Zope] No joy on 8080.

[Ignacio Valdes]

I did see in event.log that hostname was 0.0.0.0 and I added 
ip-address 129.106.nospam.nospam to it and it now recognizes the 
hostname in the event.log file. Unfortunately, that doesn't change 
anything, it still doesn't seem to respond to 
http://129.106.nospam.nospam:8080 in a browser.


-- IV

On Sun, 25 Jun 2006 20:49:23 -0400
 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Do you see anything in your logs?

- Original Message - From: "Ignacio Valdes" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "thomas desvenain" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; 
Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2006 7:18 PM
Subject: Re: [Zope] No joy on 8080.


Thanks, effective-user is zope and it appears to own the directories 
pertaining to zope. I restarted it using /etc/rc.d/init.d/zope 
restart but 
I still don't get anything on 8080. -- IV


On Mon, 26 Jun 2006 01:01:24 +0200
 "thomas desvenain" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
i had this problem : i forgot giving to zope server's 
"effective-user" 
the

rights on zope instance directory

(effective-user name is defined in zopeinstance/etc/zope.conf)

2006/6/26, Ignacio Valdes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:


Hello all,

I installed Zope on Fedora Core 5 using yum install zope, I opened
port 8080 with lokkit, then I started it up using zopectl start. 
This

is all on a headless server by ssh so I can't check
http://localhost:8080 but http://server ip address:8080 on my 
browser

doesn't work. I do have xampp apache running as well and can get the
xampp welcome screen to appear but with xampp apache started or
stopped http://server ip address:8080 doesn't do anything. I'm 
baffled

as to what to do next. What should I try?

Thanks!

-- IV
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78350 Jouy en Josas
0134652943


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Re: [Zope] No joy on 8080.

[David H]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Do you see anything in your logs?

- Original Message - From: "Ignacio Valdes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "thomas desvenain" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; 
Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2006 7:18 PM
Subject: Re: [Zope] No joy on 8080.


Thanks, effective-user is zope and it appears to own the directories 
pertaining to zope. I restarted it using /etc/rc.d/init.d/zope 
restart but I still don't get anything on 8080. -- IV


On Mon, 26 Jun 2006 01:01:24 +0200
 "thomas desvenain" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

i had this problem : i forgot giving to zope server's 
"effective-user" the

rights on zope instance directory

(effective-user name is defined in zopeinstance/etc/zope.conf)

2006/6/26, Ignacio Valdes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:



Hello all,

I installed Zope on Fedora Core 5 using yum install zope, I opened
port 8080 with lokkit, then I started it up using zopectl start. This
is all on a headless server by ssh so I can't check
http://localhost:8080 but http://server ip address:8080 on my browser
doesn't work. I do have xampp apache running as well and can get the
xampp welcome screen to appear but with xampp apache started or
stopped http://server ip address:8080 doesn't do anything. I'm baffled
as to what to do next. What should I try?

Thanks!

-- IV




Maybe ...

chown -R your user name (not as root!)  /your/zope-instance

If that doesnt work you might review these 2 zope install write ups:

http://www.plope.com/Books/2_7Edition/InstallingZope.stx#2-6

x http://plone.org/documentation/how-to/setup-from-source

David



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Re: [Zope] No joy on 8080.

[rawsystems]

Do you see anything in your logs?

- Original Message - 
From: "Ignacio Valdes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "thomas desvenain" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; 
Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2006 7:18 PM
Subject: Re: [Zope] No joy on 8080.


Thanks, effective-user is zope and it appears to own the directories 
pertaining to zope. I restarted it using /etc/rc.d/init.d/zope restart but 
I still don't get anything on 8080. -- IV


On Mon, 26 Jun 2006 01:01:24 +0200
 "thomas desvenain" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
i had this problem : i forgot giving to zope server's "effective-user" 
the

rights on zope instance directory

(effective-user name is defined in zopeinstance/etc/zope.conf)

2006/6/26, Ignacio Valdes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:


Hello all,

I installed Zope on Fedora Core 5 using yum install zope, I opened
port 8080 with lokkit, then I started it up using zopectl start. This
is all on a headless server by ssh so I can't check
http://localhost:8080 but http://server ip address:8080 on my browser
doesn't work. I do have xampp apache running as well and can get the
xampp welcome screen to appear but with xampp apache started or
stopped http://server ip address:8080 doesn't do anything. I'm baffled
as to what to do next. What should I try?

Thanks!

-- IV
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78350 Jouy en Josas
0134652943


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Re: [Zope] No joy on 8080.

[Ignacio Valdes]

Thanks, effective-user is zope and it appears to own the directories 
pertaining to zope. I restarted it using /etc/rc.d/init.d/zope restart 
but I still don't get anything on 8080. -- IV


On Mon, 26 Jun 2006 01:01:24 +0200
 "thomas desvenain" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
i had this problem : i forgot giving to zope server's 
"effective-user" the

rights on zope instance directory

(effective-user name is defined in zopeinstance/etc/zope.conf)

2006/6/26, Ignacio Valdes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:


Hello all,

I installed Zope on Fedora Core 5 using yum install zope, I opened
port 8080 with lokkit, then I started it up using zopectl start. 
This

is all on a headless server by ssh so I can't check
http://localhost:8080 but http://server ip address:8080 on my 
browser

doesn't work. I do have xampp apache running as well and can get the
xampp welcome screen to appear but with xampp apache started or
stopped http://server ip address:8080 doesn't do anything. I'm 
baffled

as to what to do next. What should I try?

Thanks!

-- IV
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Re: [Zope] No joy on 8080.

[thomas desvenain]

i had this problem : i forgot giving to zope server's "effective-user" the rights on zope instance directory(effective-user name is defined in zopeinstance/etc/zope.conf)
2006/6/26, Ignacio Valdes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
Hello all,I installed Zope on Fedora Core 5 using yum install zope, I openedport 8080 with lokkit, then I started it up using zopectl start. Thisis all on a headless server by ssh so I can't check
http://localhost:8080 but http://server ip address:8080 on my browserdoesn't work. I do have xampp apache running as well and can get thexampp welcome screen to appear but with xampp apache started or
stopped http://server ip address:8080 doesn't do anything. I'm baffledas to what to do next. What should I try?Thanks!-- IV___
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[Zope] No joy on 8080.

[Ignacio Valdes]

Hello all,

I installed Zope on Fedora Core 5 using yum install zope, I opened 
port 8080 with lokkit, then I started it up using zopectl start. This 
is all on a headless server by ssh so I can't check 
http://localhost:8080 but http://server ip address:8080 on my browser 
doesn't work. I do have xampp apache running as well and can get the 
xampp welcome screen to appear but with xampp apache started or 
stopped http://server ip address:8080 doesn't do anything. I'm baffled 
as to what to do next. What should I try?


Thanks!

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Re: [Zope] Improved Zope Org Proposal

[David H]

Andrew Sawyers wrote:

  On Sun, 2006-06-25 at 21:41 +0200, Dieter Maurer wrote:
  
  
Then I fear few interesting content will arrive at this site.


  
  Well, I think the content of this site is what I'd noted is what I noted
in earlier emails.  It might not be 'interesting', but I would hope it
to be quality and focused.  I have faith the 'interesting' aspects you
wish will come from the community.

  
  
We use Plone.org's infrastructure. When I remember right,
we have membership there and this membership contributes
a good deal of valuable content (software, howtos, faqs).

  
  We have failed at managing the breadth of content and properly
presenting it to potential and exisitng Zope users.  Maybe that
sub-community has not.
  
  
Why should it be different for Zope.org?

  
  Because it has not shown it can rise to the occasion.  Outside our
community this might not be so obvious, but referring new co-workers to
zope.org when they inquire as to the technology I bring to the table at
work, is an embarrassment.

I think my position is pretty clear.  It's up to the Foundation
ultimately.  I was asked to get the proposal out.  I've provided my
view.  The rest will become history.  :)

Andrew

  
  



  
  

Everyone has a point.

Zope is WAY too cool not to have a great web presence.  But we need a
TEAM LEADER on this.

I can pitch in and I know others will as well ...

David



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Re: [Zope] Improved Zope Org Proposal

[Andrew Sawyers]

On Sun, 2006-06-25 at 21:41 +0200, Dieter Maurer wrote:
> 
> Then I fear few interesting content will arrive at this site.
> 
Well, I think the content of this site is what I'd noted is what I noted
in earlier emails.  It might not be 'interesting', but I would hope it
to be quality and focused.  I have faith the 'interesting' aspects you
wish will come from the community.

> We use Plone.org's infrastructure. When I remember right,
> we have membership there and this membership contributes
> a good deal of valuable content (software, howtos, faqs).
We have failed at managing the breadth of content and properly
presenting it to potential and exisitng Zope users.  Maybe that
sub-community has not.
> 
> Why should it be different for Zope.org?
Because it has not shown it can rise to the occasion.  Outside our
community this might not be so obvious, but referring new co-workers to
zope.org when they inquire as to the technology I bring to the table at
work, is an embarrassment.

I think my position is pretty clear.  It's up to the Foundation
ultimately.  I was asked to get the proposal out.  I've provided my
view.  The rest will become history.  :)

Andrew

> 
> 
> 

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Re: [Zope] Improved Zope Org Proposal

[Lennart Regebro]

On 6/25/06, Dieter Maurer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

But it's quite a bit more difficult when the content comes
from independent microsites on different servers.


Maybe, but that is without a doubt a small issue compared with the big
issues microsites will solve.


As I understood we have one adminstrator.
Are you sure he want to administer not one but several
Zope installations?


No. I do not want one person a manging everything. :-)

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Re: [Zope] Improved Zope Org Proposal

[Dieter Maurer]

Lennart Regebro wrote at 2006-6-24 22:14 +0200:
> ...
>> This way, you would have an integrating site ("zope.org")
>> which would be able to provide integrationg services, e.g.
>> a search where you are interested in a concept and
>> happy to find hits in faq, wiki, product,...
>
>That can be done anyway.

But it's quite a bit more difficult when the content comes
from independent microsites on different servers.


As I understood we have one adminstrator.
Are you sure he want to administer not one but several
Zope installations?



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Re: [Zope] Improved Zope Org Proposal

[Dieter Maurer]

Andrew Sawyers wrote at 2006-6-24 16:23 -0400:
> ...
>> >* The existing
>> >  concept of membership for uploading bit-rot content will be retired.
>> 
>> This means what?
>There would be VERY limited things an individual could upload.  I
>personally argued strongly for 0 membership on this site.  If the ideas
>of micro sites went forward, the appropriate micro sites could allow (or
>not) membership as necessary.

Then I fear few interesting content will arrive at this site.

We use Plone.org's infrastructure. When I remember right,
we have membership there and this membership contributes
a good deal of valuable content (software, howtos, faqs).

Why should it be different for Zope.org?



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Re: [Zope] zcatalog strange behavior

[Dieter Maurer]

bard stéphane wrote at 2006-6-24 19:38 +0200:
>Today i try to create another zclass on the same zope server (2.6)
>zclass with zobject,zcatalogaware inheritance
>and the zcatalogawareness don't work any more.
>And I don't know why !!
>
>So each time a property is modified i should

"ZcatalogAware" never triggered reindexing when a property
was changed -- only indexing when the object was created and
unindexing when it was deleted.

Call "indexObject" (or "reindexObject") after you have make
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Re: [Zope] Improved Zope Org Proposal

[knitti]

Hi,

this is my first post to the list. I wanted to add two existing sites, which
also (in part) fill some of the products gap: zopewiki.org, which has
a products index (functional equivalent to zope.org's, with some
stale entries, I think) and planetzope.org with news and regular
product reviews.

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[Zope] [Ann] "AdvancedQuery 2.0" supports incremental ranking

[Dieter Maurer]

"AdvancedQuery" is a search engine similar to Zope's "ZCatalog"
that tries to remove many of "ZCatalog"s limitations and strives
heavily for efficiency.

"AdvancedQuery"s can be arbitrarily built from elementary index queries
with "and", "or" and "not". This gives richer query expressiveness
than "ZCatalog".

"AdvancedQuery" supports incremental multi-level sorting.

For highest efficiency, "AdvancedQuery" can (and probably should)
be used with "ManagableIndex" and "IncrementalSearch2".


New in version 2.0: support for incremental ranking.

   A rank determination rule can be specified by a sequence
   of weighted queries. The rank of a document is
   then either the sum or the maximum of the weights for
   queries that match the document.

   This kind of ranking is a sort specification and can be
   combined with other sort specifications in the usual way
   (leading to multi-level sorting).

   Ranking is performed incrementally. This way, ranking
   can be quite efficient when you only look at the first
   (few hundred) hits -- despite the fact that ranking is very
   expensive in general.


More information and download:

  



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Re: [Zope] Improved Zope Org Proposal

[Lennart Regebro]

On 6/25/06, Andrew Sawyers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I'd beg to differ.  A community such as what PHP has built didn't work
this way.  They managed this very successfully.  We have not.  I think
the problem is you want to wait until the complete city is built before
you think you can open select stores for business.


It is absolutely and completely exactly the other way around.


Yes, I seem to think this.  You seem to think it needs to continue to be
centrally managed., which has been a proven failure IMNSHO.


Again, this exactly and absolutely the other way around.


I appreciate you saying that - but again, I beg to differ.  What you
propose is to continue to have the current status quo.


No. In my answer to your proposal, I wrote exactly what I porpose. I
think you should read it and return with your comments after that. The
things you claim here to be my point of view is the direct opposite of
what I wrote there.
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Re: [Zope] Improved Zope Org Proposal

[Andrew Sawyers]

On Sun, 2006-06-25 at 08:38 +0200, Lennart Regebro wrote:
> 
> OK; I see what you mean now. You ant to create the www.zope.org that
> works as the main entrance and integratoor of the microsites. The
> proble is that you wnat to do that BEFORE the microsites exist, which
> is backwards.
I'd beg to differ.  A community such as what PHP has built didn't work
this way.  They managed this very successfully.  We have not.  I think
the problem is you want to wait until the complete city is built before
you think you can open select stores for business.  So, I guess we'll
have to agree to disagree on approach.
> 
> Also, you seem to think that the microsites can be run by whoever
> under whatever domainname. That doesn't work. We can't have our main
> product site disappear because the guy who managed it got tired or
> forget to pay his internet provider bill. And it looks bad if the
> community is a hodgepodge of domains and URLs.
Yes, I seem to think this.  You seem to think it needs to continue to be
centrally managed., which has been a proven failure IMNSHO.

If you're concerned about domains are easily managed.  It's called a
CNAME.  You seem to presume the worst case.  I'm more of a capitalist in
regards to what I'd expect to happen here.  Empower the community and
acknowledge them, and they will do what is necessary.  

We've seen the success of a group trying to centrally manage the entire
breadth of zope.org.  As far as I know, the community has been empowered
to do things to improve the state and condition of the zope.org arena
for quite a long time.  Nothing has happened substantially.  What has
happened though, is community areas have popped up to fill the failing
area on zope.org because it was easier for them and they cared to do
something.  Promoting this IS the right way, IMNSHO.  Rewarding this, is
the right way INMNSHO.  Wishing it is going to happen out of ether is
questionable, just because the foundation is now formed.  I'd love to be
wrong, but unless people had so much contempt for Zope Corp directly
that they refused to do anything on these fronts for that reason alone,
I don't see how this situation magically changes.  Prove me wrong.
> 
> I say that you repost this proposal when we have some community sites
> to integrate. :-)
I appreciate you saying that - but again, I beg to differ.  What you
propose is to continue to have the current status quo.  I and others are
proposing to force the move.  Guess I could wait to move into my new
house because the carpets and hardwood floors aren't laid yet - or I
could move in and make due.  I prefer the later.

  I think we have the community sites.  We have docs on plope.com (but
I'd prefer those to actually live on zope.org).  We have zopelabs.com,
we have zwikis.org IIRC, there is a great site D2M has been doing work
on, and there are several others which have great content.  None of
which push their content back to zope.org - but can, and can be used to
fulfill our immediate needs.  The only community site which is yet to
step up is a product site.  No one is saying bag products on zope.org
the day after.  Do something - there's plenty who have and are waiting
to do more.  Don't squash that.


Andrew

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Re: [Zope] Zope 2.9.3/2.9.1 On Suse 10.1 box version

[Andreas Jung]

--On 24. Juni 2006 23:09:00 +0300 Ofer Weisglass <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:



Hi

I am trying to install Zope 2.9.3 or 2.9.1 on Suse 10.1 and this is what I
get:

error: must supply either home or prefix/exec-prefix -- not both
make: *** [install] Error 1

Any ideas what to do?



Please try again with a Python source build. Usually we don't care much 
about system Python installation that are often broken in different ways.


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