+1 for deprecation.
On Fri, 1 Apr 2005, Jim Fulton wrote:
ZClasses are a feature that support through-the-web development.
Many people have found them useful in the past, but they have some
significant deficiencies, including:
- They can't be managed with file-system tools, especially
On Sun, 3 Apr 2005, Garito wrote:
My +1 for ZClasses deprecation
And +1 for DTML deprecation
Try to keep Zope simple
-1 for DTML deprecation.
It serves a different purpose that ZPT--
DTML is Logic+HTML
ZPT is HTML+Logic.
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Has anyone had problems with Python 2.4.1 with the latest Zope 2.7.X
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really would like to be able to do
is to reference all files relatively and allow internal directories and
the like. We've been using the LocalFS product, mostly with great
success, but this has got me stumped.
Any suggestions? hints? pointers?
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On Thu, 28 Apr 2005, Asad Habib wrote:
I have a session variable called 'undergraduateProjectsDirected' that I
declare using the following syntax:
dtml-call REQUEST.SESSION.set('undergradProjectsDirected', [ ])
When I try to append items to this list variable, I get the following
error:
Are there any problems using Python 2.4.X with Zope 2.7.X?
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You might take a look at the CookieCrumbler product. It does pretty much
what you seem to want manages much of the hard stuff.
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I have created a login form an a few users in acl_users, both exists
Another option is to look at the other User Folder products which
do things differently. Alternatively, you could modify the
CookieCrumbler product to make it fit your model.
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You might
system, the
session variables need to be shared and therefore must be managed by
ZEO. What is the recommended best practice for this?
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I am hoping someone with more experience that I with multi-headed
Zope/ZEO installations can point out my problem.
I am using with Zope 2.7.6-final and Python 2.4.1. Yes, I know I am
jumping the gun with 2.4.1 but I expect that it is not the source of the
problem. Hardware is an Athlon
Dieter,
I get the following error at startup (Zope 2.7.6-final, Python 2.3.4,
ZopeProfiler 1.1 in a multi-headed Zope/ZEO configuration with shared
session variables.
My hypothesis is that the culprit is the ZopeProfiler and that I need to
move to Version 1.4. Are there any problems using it
McDonough wrote:
It appears that something in the ZopeProfiler product is unhappy with
your configuration. Does it work if you remove this product?
On Mon, 2005-05-09 at 23:37 -0700, Dennis Allison wrote:
I am hoping someone with more experience that I with multi-headed
Zope/ZEO
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We have a need to set a session variable concurrently with a
user submitting a form on a mouse click. I accomplish this with
a bit of JavaScript associated with the OnClick attribute of the
form:
location.replace('/setSesVar?var=namsval=xxx;frm.submit();
which does the job except that
Does ZSyncer have any problem with Zope/ZEO systems? I have some
anecdotal evidence of problems as we migrate to a multiheaded Zope/ZEO
systems architecture.
Is there any difficult using ZSyncer between a Zope and a Zope/ZEO
combination. Are there problems syncing between Zope 2.6.X and
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If this is a FAQ, please tell me which Q to look under.
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problem.
Thanks to all. -d
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Does ZSyncer have any problem with Zope/ZEO systems? I have some
anecdotal evidence of problems as we migrate to a multiheaded Zope/ZEO
systems
, 2005 at 09:15:32AM -0700, Dennis Allison wrote:
Furher investigation has shown that the failing ZSyncer target had a
problem with its authentication code and that was likely the cause of
the failure. We are continuing to test, but it appears everything is
working. We'll continue
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On Fri, 27 May 2005, Allen Huang wrote:
Is there any way to open a .doc files using dtml or script and print them??
The short answer is it depends. To make such files generally available
you have to convert them to HTML so arbirary browsers can access them.
You can use MS Word to do the
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Zope 2.7.6b3, ZEO,
Python 2.4.1 (yes, I know it is not yet official but ...
ZEO runs on the same machine but is accessed through an internal network
ZMYSQLDA 2.0.9
MySQL-1.1.7
I have seen several Lock problems and a couple of storage error problems
as I upgrade our system. Anyone seen anything
Zope 2.7.6, ZEO,
Python 2.4.1 (yes, I know it is not yet official but ...
ZEO runs on the same machine but is accessed through an internal network
ZMYSQLDA 2.0.9
MySQL-1.1.7
I've seen a couple of problems attributable to XLRPC failures in our
system after an upgrade to Zope 2.7.6. Has anyone
2005 15:14:21 -0700 Dennis Allison
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Zope 2.7.6, ZEO,
Python 2.4.1 (yes, I know it is not yet official but ...
ZEO runs on the same machine but is accessed through an internal network
ZMYSQLDA 2.0.9
MySQL-1.1.7
I've seen a couple of problems attributable
Zope 2.7.6
Python 2.3.5
MySQLDA-1.2.1c3
ZMYSQLDA-2.09b3
Site Error
An error was encountered while publishing this resource.
Error Type: KeyError
Error Value: 'query'
Troubleshooting Suggestions
* This resource may be trying to reference a nonexistent object or
variable 'query'.
*
parameters? For some reason (and I'm not the
guy who can tell you why...) these types of tests always break - try
adding '?query=' to the end of the URL. and see if that helps.
Cheers,
Joe.
On 7 Jun 2005, at 11:41, Dennis Allison wrote:
Zope 2.7.6
Python 2.3.5
MySQLDA-1.2.1c3
Failure occurs with
Zope 2.7.6 final
Python 2.3.5 or Phython 2.4.1
MySQLdb 1.2.1 gamma or MySQLdb 1.1.1 final
ZMySQLDA 2.08 or ZMYSQLDA 2.09
Failure does not occur with
Zope 2.6.4
python 2.3.5
MySQLdb 1.1.1 final
ZMySQLDA 2.08
The
Is there any way to configure multi-headed Zopes running on different
machines but sharing the same ZEO to log to the same file (in time order
would also be nice...)?
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CalendarX for Plone, so this
behavior concerns me greatly and I'll be looking into it more very soon.
+lupa+
Lupa Zurven, CalendarX.org
At 12:00 PM 6/12/2005 -0400, you wrote:
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Subject: [Zope] Datetime bug in Zope-2.7.6?
Date
We have been seeing a number of instances where python scripts fail due to
an apparent syntax error but the syntax is correct and simply storing
the method restores it to functionality. Anyone else seeing this?
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Take a look at http://http://products.bluedynamics.org/Products/Znolk, a
wizard method which generates a wide variety of different Zope methods
for maintaining databases.
I don't understand your concurrent update issue. Such problems should be
handled by the backend database, careful table
IE, Zope 2.7.6, Python 2.4.1, MYSQLDA 2.0.9
One of our developers is reporting a curious problem, which I have not
been able to track down. It appears to be threading related, somewhere
in the ZBMYSQLDB adaptor.
The database connection string is bare of transaction indicators. The
database
emacs via ftp -- see the Zope Book for funky details.
On Thu, 23 Jun 2005, Paul Winkler wrote:
On Thu, Jun 23, 2005 at 04:27:50PM +0100, John Poltorak wrote:
What alternatives are there to editing objects through ZMI?
ExternalEditor.
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I'm not exactly sure how it works, but have feeling it won't work for me.
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/python/Shared/DC/ZRDB/TM.py, line
59, in tpc_finish
try: self._finish()
File /opt/zope/zproducts/standard/ZMySQLDA/db.py, line 376, in _finish
self._tlock.release()
error: release unlocked lock
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The download list at zope.org does not have any releases between 2.7.3 and
2.8. We've been using 2.7.6 and would like to be able to download clean
copies...
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The download list at zope.org does not have any releases between 2.7.3 and
2.8. We've been using 2.7.6 and would like to be able to download clean
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Thanks Tim. I'm not really sure where I was looking--I followed the
standard download, then to the 'other releases tab. And the 2.7.X X3
releases somehow were not visible
On Sat, 9 Jul 2005, Tim Peters wrote:
[Dennis Allison]
The download list at zope.org does not have any releases
For simple conversion, you may find htmldoc to be a good choice.
Reportlab is a great tool but takes considerable effort; htmldoc
gives a good enough solution in many cases.
On Fri, 15 Jul 2005, Chris Withers wrote:
Allen Huang wrote:
How do I change my webpage into pdf using dtml or python
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Zope 2.7.6 with ZEO
Python 2.4.1
I would like to configure for a single merged log. If BE is the backend
machine running ZEO and FEA FEB and FEC are various front-ends for the
ZEO, what's
Exactly what I was planning to do. The docs themselves indicate they are
incomplete. Is there any documentation beyond that supplied with the
distribution. (I have read the logging docs and PEP 282.)
Python 2.4.1 seems to be clean and stable with Zope 2.7.6. We've been
running it in
We've been seeing this problem for some time. Earlier postings to the
list were helpful in that we have eliminated possible causes, but the
problem has never been resolved. Any assistance in tracking down the
problem and fixing it would be greatly appreciated.
Our configuration:
Athlon dual
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We've been seeing this problem for some time. Earlier postings to the
list were helpful in that we have eliminated possible causes, but the
problem has never been resolved. Any assistance in tracking down the
problem and fixing it would be greatly
I am sure this is a synaptic disconnect, but I can't seem to
get my head around this one.
I have remote Zopes (call them A, B, C ) and a database
server (D). I also have a bunch of mysql databases. All of the
machines run mysql. All the Zope instances share the same Data.fs
connected
I want to direct the Z2.log file to both a local file and to a
remote machine. I think the configuration might be something like
this:
logger access
level WARN
logfile
path $INSTANCE/log/Z2.log
format %(message)s
/logfile
syslog
address 192.168.0.92:514
format
I have been running Zope 2.7.6 with Python 2.4.1 without problems for
several months now.
On Wed, 7 Sep 2005, Jim Fulton wrote:
At:
http://www.zope.org/Wikis/DevSite/Proposals/RequirePython24
Is a proposal to require Python 2.4 for Zope 2.9 (to be released
this December).
When you get a solution let me know. I am in the middle of log hell
at the moment (including Zopes logs) trying to get things to sync up
properly across multiple machines.
When my stuff works, I'll share.
-d
On Fri, 23 Sep 2005, Paul Winkler wrote:
Anybody know of any software
Depends upon what you want to do and how much access you have. For
debugging purposes I often use an external procedure
def debugWindow( data ):
fd = open('/tmp/debugWindow,'a')
fd.write( str(data))
fd.close()
and look at the output with
tail -f /tmp/debugWindow
Or, you can
We are running on a linux host. The file information ends upon
in the local file system in the /tmp directory.
On Fri, 7 Oct 2005, Brian Sullivan wrote:
On 10/7/05, Tino Wildenhain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Am Freitag, den 07.10.2005, 09:03 -0700 schrieb Dennis Allison:
Depends upon
posting is appended
From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sat Oct 8 10:52:32 2005
Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 03:41:21 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dennis Allison [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: zope@zope.org
Subject: Z SQL test in the ZMI aborts on key error
Zope 2.7.6
Python 2.3.5
MySQLDA-1.2.1c3
ZMYSQLDA-2.09b3
Site Error
An error
, that is, the
result of a dtml evaluation, the query value (that is, the result of the
evaluation) does not seem to be preserved and re-evaluated.
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Sorry for the long message
We have been running on Zope 2.7.6 with a few patches. I am now planning
to migrate to Zope 2.7.8 but am pondering the move to Zope 2.8. We are in
a production situation and cannot accept any downtime, so I am very
concerned about stability and compatibility.
Can the list provide words of
Zope 2.7.6
I am a bit confused.
I have a Zope DTML method that is generating ZODB conflict errors.
The DTML method identified as producing the conflicts is a list of calls
to other methods, conditionally executed.
Most conflicts don't cause problems because the backoff and restart of the
would be
the simplest solution, but I'm a bit wary of doing so on a live system.
On Fri, 14 Oct 2005, Chris McDonough wrote:
On Fri, 2005-10-14 at 09:27 -0700, Dennis Allison wrote:
Zope 2.7.6
I am a bit confused.
I have a Zope DTML method that is generating ZODB conflict errors
whrandom is a deprecated python library package which should be replaced
by random. Python 2.3.5 does not produce the deprecation warning but
lacks some of the features of the Python 2.4.X series.
On Fri, 14 Oct 2005 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello. On starting and stopping Zope 2.8.2
Pascal,
Why does Zope lag the release of Python by so very long?
The Python 2.4.X series includes language features and poerformance
enhancements which ought to be available in Zope. For the most part,
Python 2.3.5 is a subset of Python 2.4.X. Compatibility is a language and
implementation
Andreas,
Aside from a security audit what problems have been reported using
Python 2.4.X? Those of use who run Python 2.4.X do it becasue we want
access to the language features and performance. If there are stability
issues attributed to that choice, we'd like to know what they are.
to be identified and
publicized. We certainly collect the incompatilities (if there are any)
so they can be fixed as eventually the code base will move to later python
systems.
-d
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We've run into problems tryin to run Plone under Zope 2.8.4. What is the
current best practice?
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Current configuration:
Linux RH7.3
Zope 2.8.4
Python 2.4.2 (but the same is observed with Python 2.3.5)
I continue to observe occasional failures of the Zope session variable
mechanism. The problem manifests itself by a KeyError when accessing data
in the session data container. We
Zope 2.8.4
ZEO 3.4.2
ZODB 3.4.2
Python 2.4.2 or 2.3.5
MySQL 4.0.20
MySQL-Python 1.2.0
MYSQLDA 2.0.9
We have just moved from Zope 2.7.6 to Zope 2.8.4 motivated, in part, but
the ability to avoid read conflicts under ZODBÂ 3.4.2. We have been having
a lot of problems: more conflict errors,
ZEO 3.4.2
Zope 2.8.4
ZODB 3.4.2 as relesed with Zope 2.8.4B
Python 2.4.2 or 2.3.5
MySQL 4.0.20
MySQL-Python 1.2.0
MYSQLDA 2.0.9
We have just moved from Zope 2.7.6 to Zope 2.8.4 motivated, in part, but
the ability to avoid read conflicts under ZODBÂ 3.4.2. We have been having
a lot of
Has anyone prepared a set of best practice guidelines on the techniques to
use to minimize conflicts?
It is becoming clear that we need to do to refactor some of our code to
get us out of our current conflict pickle.
A quick google produced lots of commentary but nothing I could hand to our
balancers so that certain requests don't clog your pipes
On 11/15/05, Dennis Allison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Has anyone prepared a set of best practice guidelines on the techniques to
use to minimize conflicts?
It is becoming clear that we need to do to refactor some of our code
We use htmldoc. It's a bit old and a bit grotty, but it does
the job.
On Wed, 16 Nov 2005, Fernando Lujan wrote:
Does Anyone has this product in a production environment?
It's easy to configure and stuff? We currently are working with the
reportlab, but it's painful to change the
2005, Chris McDonough wrote:
On Nov 15, 2005, at 5:54 PM, Dennis Allison wrote:
Has anyone prepared a set of best practice guidelines on the
techniques to
use to minimize conflicts?
It is becoming clear that we need to do to refactor some of our
code to
get us out of our
to do this every so often by calling the housekeep method on TOC.
See this written by dunny about conflicts and sessions (although this
was written before MVCC):
http://www.plope.com/Members/dunny/conflicts/view
HTH,
- C
On Nov 16, 2005, at 6:18 PM, Dennis Allison wrote
test framework:
dtml-var standard_html_header
dtml-var expr=eproc()
dtml-var standard_html_footer
Setup an external method
def eproc( self ):
return 'hello world'
and run the test method. It prints
hello world
Now, change the test method
def eproc( self ):
return 'hello
blush Yup. or so it seems. Thanks. Stupid errors confume the day...
On Fri, 18 Nov 2005, Paul Winkler wrote:
On Fri, Nov 18, 2005 at 11:25:06AM -0800, Dennis Allison wrote:
To adopt the code for the modified method the external method needs
to be resaved.
*Or* you need to have
Thanks Dieter.
On Fri, 18 Nov 2005, Dieter Maurer wrote:
Dennis Allison wrote at 2005-11-15 14:54 -0800:
Has anyone prepared a set of best practice guidelines on the techniques to
use to minimize conflicts?
* Localize out into separate persistent objects attributes
with high
/zproducts/standard/ZMySQLDA/db.py, line 389, in _abort
self._tlock.release()
error: release unlocked lock
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Dennis Allison wrote:
We are using MySQL but are fully transactional using innodb.
The sort of problems we are seeing are (cruft
comments on the net about problems with MySQLDA which may also be related.
On Sun, 20 Nov 2005, Florent Guillaume wrote:
Dennis Allison wrote:
Florent,
There were, of course, tracebacks. Any assist you can provide would be
appreciated. -D
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I have a DTML method which provides the primary navigation control in a
portion of our system and so is very heavily used. It is a primary source
of conflict errors and so is being rethought.
Zope 2.8.4, ZEO 3.4.2, ZODB 3.4.2, Python 2.4.2 or 2.3.5
MySQL 4.0.20, MySQL-Python 1.2.0, MYSQLDA
If I have a vote, +1 on deprecation and replacement with something less
buggy. We have spent enormous amounts of time trying to sort out and then
work around DateTime problems. On the other hand, we have a substantial
amount of code that uses DateTime and finally, mostlyt works. We'd be
and
that investment needs to be protected.
On Fri, 25 Nov 2005, Andreas Jung wrote:
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If I have a vote, +1 on deprecation and replacement with something less
buggy.
You can only deprecate when you have
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Zope 2.8.4
ZODB/Zeo 2.3.4
Mysql 4.0
Dual Athalon processors
Linux RH7.3
We have two recent instances in our production sites where Zope suddenly
stops responding. It is not a new problem, but we've now been confronted
with two clean examples and nothing to blame them on. The
Nov 2005, Florent Guillaume wrote:
Dennis Allison wrote:
We have two recent instances in our production sites where Zope suddenly
stops responding. It is not a new problem, but we've now been confronted
with two clean examples and nothing to blame them on. The problem appears
since leaks
easily cause failures far away from where the fault lies.
It certainly is a worthwhile thing to check and monitor.
-d
On Sun, 27 Nov 2005, Chris McDonough wrote:
On Nov 27, 2005, at 8:13 PM, Dennis Allison wrote:
here to begin to track this one down. The failure
the same machine.
On Sun, 27 Nov 2005, Paul Winkler wrote:
On Sun, Nov 27, 2005 at 05:13:21PM -0800, Dennis Allison wrote:
Examination of the raw trace log shows that Zope is continuing to accept
requests, but nothing getting done. The raw log date-stamps four internal
states for each
We had been plagued with a threading error which manifests itself
as an exception reporting release unreleased lock. At Andy's
suggestion I added code to catch the exception in the appropriate
place in ZMySQLDA --
Here's the code from db.py ---
The code probably should be specific to the
We do see occasional instances where things slow down, a backlog builds,
and then it clears. But no disconnects.
On Sun, 27 Nov 2005, Paul Winkler wrote:
On Sun, Nov 27, 2005 at 08:08:20PM -0800, Dennis Allison wrote:
Thanks Paul.
I checked and did not find any Client disconnected
rather than use popen2
in the external method.
On Sun, 27 Nov 2005, Dennis Allison wrote:
Python2.4.2
Zope 2.8.4
ZODB/Zeo 2.3.4
Mysql 4.0
Dual Athalon processors
Linux RH7.3
We have two recent instances in our production sites where Zope suddenly
stops responding. It is not a new
I have not yet completed differential diagnosis, but I was hoping someone
had encountered a similar problem and could pass along a fix/workaround.
The following program fails to do the writes --
import MySQLdb
initdb='test'
dbuser = 'root'
dbpass = 'XX'
host = 'localhost'
connection =
We just had an example of a run away process with one of our authenticated
users.
I would have liked to kill off the user's processing while leaving all the
other users running.
Any ideas as to how to accomplish this? I do know
the user's login and password, but little else. We use the
I cannot make any sense out of your example data. Since you already have
the data in a MySQL table, I would think the best way to find the match
would be to make a MySQL query.
On Mon, 5 Dec 2005, Cameron Beattie wrote:
I have a large set of data (that will be stored in MySQL) that I wish
On Fri, 14 Oct 2005, Chris McDonough wrote:
Dennis Allison asked:
What data does Zope store in the ZODB when an object is evaluated?
None that you don't tell it to. Typically conflict errors are a result
of two threads calling code which changes the same object at the same
time
whether a KeyError signals that all
session variables are missing or whether only a few are missing.
On Sun, 11 Dec 2005, Michael Dunstan wrote:
On 12/9/05, Dennis Allison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The problem I am trying to resolve appears to be load related. The
observed symptom is that (some
Thanks, I'll take a look. I don't have much faith in getting to
do it with the live system, but maybe I can find a way to get some
sort of testbed.
On Sun, 11 Dec 2005, Michael Dunstan wrote:
On 12/11/05, Dennis Allison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Good idea, but it is hard to do
Zope 2.8.4, ZODB 3.4.2
I am still trying to resolve a session variables in the presence of
conflicts problem. The observed symptom is that suddenly either some
session variables disappear or all session variables disappear. In both
cases, Zope has raised a KeyError exception for the a
Hi Davids. Thanks for your note. I remember your post.
No, I have not used HappySession although we looked at it when we started.
When we started development, sessions had just become part of the standard
release Zope and we decided that in the long run we'd be better off using
the release
* values stored in the session that you need to do explicit
persistence triggering. I provided an example of doing this in my
last email.
- C
On Dec 15, 2005, at 4:20 PM, Dennis Allison wrote:
Chris McDonnough pointed out a problem with my setSessionVariable
code which I am now fixing
Chris McDonough identified a persistence problem with the routine(s) that
manage sessions variables. (Thanks Chris) I have put the correction in
place which resolved some (but not all) of the problems.
There are still problems which are apparently due conflicts in accessing
the session
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