Re: [Zope] Re: [squishdot] Re: [Zope] Ann: Squishdot 0.3.4 Released

2000-05-18 Thread mindlace

Chris Withers wrote:

> The internationalisation thing sounds like something that should wait
> for SquishdotPTK, which is currently being thought about... so make a
> note of it ;-)
> 
> What's the problem with SiteAccess?

Oh, sorry, just that everyone gets the same time.  I guess that'd be
true for whatever zope I was running.

And does 0.3.4 break any 0.3.2 pages if I install it?  0.3.2 was
installed on zope 2.1.6.

Thanks,

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[Zope] Re: Frames and Zope

2000-05-18 Thread mindlace

Sin Hang Kin wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I am working at a search form and trying to display the result in one of the
> frame newly created.
> I just realize by putting the  instead of the code into
> the frames, the variables were all gone.

I need more information to be able to help you with this one.  Could you
give me the dtml you are using to send the information to the new frame?

> I recall that zope take account to different browser section, did this
> related to my problem? If the user require login to perform something, is
> this means If i split a browser into three frames, all three frames need to
> login again?

You should not have to, unless the frame has a different URL than the
authenticating page.

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p.s. this seemed like a zope as opposed to zope-dev email, so I cc'd it
there instead.

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Re: [Zope] Apache mod_rewrite module...

2000-05-20 Thread mindlace

Pierre Rougier wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> well... I do not know if this is the place to ask it, but...
> I use two servers... ZServer and apache
> 
> My URL references to Apache
> example:
> http://margo.pla.fr/intra/machin.html
> 
> and I want to use httpd.conf to transform it (only for html and htm
> files)
> in
> 
> http://margo.pla.fr/intra/?machin.html (which is my ZServer)
> 
> Does someone know the rewrite I sould use regular expression are a
> mistery for me

does "intra" represent that it should be represented by zserver? if so,

RewriteRule ^/intra/(.*)htm  /intra/?$1htm
RewriteRule ^/intra/(.*)html /intra/?$1html

should do the trick.

http://www.apache.org/docs-1.2/mod/mod_rewrite.html has more
information.

hope that helps,

~mindlace @ imeme & digicool

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Re: [Zope] Zope.org membership

2000-05-22 Thread mindlace

Graham Chiu wrote:
> 
> Can it be changed so that it remembers both my userid and password, or
> just my password?  I usually remember who I am!

This is certainly true.  Unfortunately, Microsoft has made it so that
anyone with a modicum of javascript skills can read *all* your cookies
(if you use IE on Windows):

http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=00/05/11/173257&mode=nested

Now, there may not be hugely deletrious effects resulting from this, but
until cookies are handled in a sane manner, it's probably inappropriate
for us to be putting the password there.

If you're using IE 5 or Mozilla (NS 6) you can always tell it to
remember what you've entered into the password field.

Thanks,

~ethan fremen @ digicool & imeme

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[Zope] Zope.org tracker

2000-05-22 Thread mindlace

Zopistas!

There is now a zope.org tracker at http://www.zope.org/Tracker for bugs
and feature requests for Zope.org.  If there's anything that's been
driving you nuts about the zope.org website, or something you'd just
like to see, please feel free to add it to the Tracker!

Thanks,

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Re: [Zope] Apache mod_rewrite module...

2000-05-22 Thread mindlace

Pierre Rougier wrote:
> 
> The problem is that by doing that, as in the HTML pages, paths are
> relatives, the redirection change all the relative address to the port 8080
> (because the final served URL is on this port), and I want my Images to be
> served by apache

What I think you need to do is use SiteAccess so that it strips out the
port.  You can use an access rule like so:

  


Then, zope will generate all its links with a base that excludes the
port, so Apache will always get the request and apply its rewrite
rules.  You have to do this, because zope always adds a base url tag to
pages, so relative URL's think they go to zope.

Hope that helps,

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Re: [Zope] Apache mod_rewrite module...

2000-05-22 Thread mindlace

mindlace wrote:

> What I think you need to do is use SiteAccess so that it strips out the
> port.  You can use an access rule like so:
> 
>   
> 

You may have to change the string.split if the subdomain is important.

~ethan

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Re: [Zope] Zope.org membership

2000-05-22 Thread mindlace

Graham Chiu wrote:
 
> I went there, clicked on the buttons, and got DNS errors.

This link should show you all the cookies you have at www.zope.org:

http://www.securityspace.com%2fexploit%2fexploit_1b.html%3fdomain==.www.zope.org/#exploit_1
 
> Well, you only have to save one half of a pair.  I would prefer you save
> the password.  The username I can remember :-)

Your username is publicly accessable from zope.org.  With your password,
if there's any way I can inferr your username- let's say the webmaster
grabbed the information while you were posting a comment on
zopeisevil.org- they can now do whatever you could do.

More to the point, with redirection and javascript, they can even make
you do it.  For zope.org membership as it is today, all they could do is
besmirch your good name in the community. In the future, as the things a
zope member can do expands, it could mess up more.

I will, however, look into other possibilities, like maybe your password
could be filled in server side, if some appropriate check can be made.

If you like, drop this issue in the Tracker, http://www.zope.org/Tracker
, so that you'll be updated when its status changes.

> >If you're using IE 5 or Mozilla (NS 6) you can always tell it to
> >remember what you've entered into the password field.
> 
> Doesn't offer to save it for me on IE5. If it did, I wouldn't be asking.

Hmm.  It harasses me about it all the time.  Perhaps I'm using IE 5.5
(can't remember, I'm back in linux.)

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Re: [Zope] Re: [ZDP] Re: [Zope] The agony of the ZOPE Documentation

2000-05-24 Thread mindlace

I posted this on ZDP but I thought I should put it here too.

Chris Withers wrote:
> Maik Roeder wrote:
> > The ZDP project has got another server than the main Zope site, and
> > there are only a few spare time developers working on this site. If
> > we could work together with Digital Creations and perhaps on the
> > same server as Zope.org, things would be much easier !
> 
> I'm inclined to agree, why have a ZD portal when you could just have a
> Zope portal...
>
> > The ZDP has "only" got
> > the aim to point to existing stuff. Restructuring the existing docs
> > is not our job.
> 
> Maybe it should be? How about rebuilding zope.org as a generic 'Zope
> Portal' with the building and documenting work being done more by the
> community? (ie: integrating ZDP and Zope.org)

You got it.  I think that the ZD portal and Zope.org should be
seamlessly integrated.  More to the point, I have the authority to make
it happen on DC's end.  I am *very* interested in integrating the
community's effort more completely into Zope.org.

Furthermore, this *is* a major part of what I need to do with Zope.org. 
It is, indeed, part of my Job Description:

4. Use direct assistance, tight documentation integration, collaborative
tools and appropriate koans to provide a path to Zope Zen: a gentle
learning curve that takes participants from novice DTML work to hacking
zope internals

So I *do* have time to help with this, and I don't imagine my employer
will give me flack :)

I will admit that I am not exactly up to speed on who's doing what with
ZDP, nor am I trying to impose a vision.

So what do you folks think?

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Re: [Zope] The agony of the ZOPE Documentation

2000-05-24 Thread mindlace

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> 
> I'm sorry, but I have to say, the ZOPE documentation, despite efforts
> to improve it, is absolutely, positively horrible.  Not because the
> content isn't there, but because the tools to access it simply suck.
> I can type in searches on both zope.org and zdp.zope.org and though I
> KNOW the information is there, I can't get the results I want!

Ok.  This only vaguely begins to address your issues, but I went ahead
and added searching Zope.org with Google to the "search" page- the one
you get for clicking on the "search" link at the top of the page.

For example, I searched for dtml-+in  (had to add the +, because "in" is
a stop-word) and got loads of relevant results.

Hope this helps a tiny bit.  Digital Creations did just recently hire
me, in part, to fix the tools to access the documentation, so you can
expect it to get better soon.

Thanks,

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[Zope] Mailing Lists

2000-05-24 Thread mindlace

Zopistas,

There's a new mailing list:  Zope-Web.  This list will discuss what's
happening with the zope family of websites (zope.org, zope.net, and
zope.com).  Currently only zope.org has content, but this may change in
the future. If you want to see the zope websites do what they should,
sign up!

Also, I am extending an open offer to anyone who has a zope-related
mailing list to have it hosted at zope.org.  I would specifically like
to see the zope-language mailing lists come to zope-  zope-de, zope-pt,
and it looks like we may add zope-it.  You're under no obligation to do
so, but the offer is there.

Thanks,

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Re: [Zope] ANN: Perl For Zope

2000-05-25 Thread mindlace

Zopistas,

This argument is all very funny.

Why is it bad to be able to answer someone when they say "i use this
perl script on my site, I want to use it in zope"? I would personally
like this for little regexp programs.  What matters is that 90% of the
old-school web sites use perl as their glue, and they shouldn't have to
have their sites fall apart when transitioning to zope.

If it helps any, it should be obvious by now that zope is from the emacs
school and not the vi school. Zope's problem domain is simply too wide
to be addressed by anything but an all-inclusive approach.

To me, perl is small beans, but XSLT... that sets me drooling.  All
sorts of other methods are fine by me, too.

I highly doubt that the core codebase of Zope is going to ever be
anything other than C and python, unless some other compiled language
comes along that's even better & more portable than C or some lunatic
decides that zope should work in jpython.

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Re: [Zope] Zope Email (syndication)

2000-05-25 Thread mindlace

Chris Withers wrote:
> Check out:
> http://www.zope.org/Members/mindlace/MailZopeMan
> 
> I like these ideas a lot, but I'd prefer to see the low-level email
> integration done seperately, so it can be used for other things.

I don't quite see why MailHost isn't "low level integration"

> My dream would be for Zope to pipe an email address to a specific
> object/method without the need for any external mail servers or
> scripts...

Making Zope an MTA seems like a lot of extra work.  Now, Zope as an IMAP
server I could get my head around...
 
> ZMailman could then very easily be built on top of this. However, if
> ZMailman is built, I suspect it'd be difficult to use the core
> functionality to do something else. What is the email equivalent of
> Medusa? And can we 'borrow' it in the same way?

Well... I think that it's probably the shortest route to a functioning
zope archive to use mailman-  already written in python, and modular
enough that we should be able to take it one step at a time.

Note that no mailing list software I know of tries to be an MTA.  With
sooo many different implementation issues, making zope an MTA would be a
big challenge, IMNSHO.

Of course, if it were to show up, I don't think I'd complain.

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Re: [Zope] Re: [Zope-Annce] ANN: Perl For Zope - why I'm bummed

2000-05-25 Thread mindlace

Roman Milner wrote:

> For zope, you will just have to
> "know zope" - employers will see "zope" and a language just like
> parents see "understanding computers" as knowing how to fix their windows
> boxes :)

I feel like I "know zope", but I don't have a deep understanding of
python, or a comprehensive grasp of how it handles SQL.  Indeed, I'm not
particularly fond of relational databases- but I think that's a phobia,
and I'll get over it soon enough.

> We have a lot of former perl coders here and they won't be able to
> resist the new fancy perl methods.  And within a short while we will
> have a body code dung.

A body code dung?  I can't possibly see how Perl Methods are going to
lead to some imagined core source corruption.  If a method is availiable
in perl, so what?

I mean, all of these "Methods" are going to have to talk the same way to
the zope machinery.  If you want to leave a Perl Method as a black box,
then nothing should stop you.  The very nature of Methods means that
no-one is going to write PerlOffice in a single method.

If someone has a substantial investment in Perl, and they want to keep
that as an External Method in order transition to Zope, then they should
be able to.  It has been a barrier to the adoption of Zope more than
once, I would imagine.

One of the big stumbling blocks for me, in my adoption of zope, is that
it "forced" me to do it with python or not at all.

> Perhaps this is a disadvantage to the DC company-owned open-source
> project model.  They will make bad decisions based on potential
> profit.

This is a complete slam, and totally unjustified.  ZOPE means "The Z
Object Publishing System".  publishing Perl methods as objects is just
as valid as publishing any other kind of object.
It is an open source project, with all the benifits thereof.  If you
really feel that it needs to be "OPOPS", the Only Python Object
Publishing System, and that any non-python object is anathema, go right
ahead.

> I don't buy this bit about being able to access 1000's of wonderful
> perl modules.  Most people that I know who have made the switched at
> how much better the python library is the perl's.

So fine.  Be confident in your language, and assume that people will
transition to python as they move in to using zope.

> Sorry for being a tad emotional here.  I'm sure I will calm down -
> it's just that yesterday I was one of the most adamant Zope evangelist
> around.  Today...

Today you're taking one of the logical consequences in the development
of an object publishing system and turning it into something that it's
really not.  The reality of web publishing is that people use a variety
of tools and languages to accomplish their goals, and any object
publishing system that wants to be worthy of the name needs to play
nicely with as many as possible.

opinions-are-mine-ly yours,

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Re: [Zope] secure management with Site Access?

2000-09-28 Thread mindlace

Rob Miller wrote:
> 
> Is anyone using the Apache/mod_proxy/SiteAccess method of using Zope with
> the ability to access a given virtual host both with and without SSL
> encryption?  If so, can you give me some pointers on how to accomplish
> this?  I'd like to use SSL for all of my management activity but have the
> main site be available for non-encrypted viewing.  The 'SiteRoot', though,
> will only rewrite the URLs with either 'http' or 'https', and isn't smart
> enough to do one or the other depending on the form of the original
> request.

A SiteRoot is happy to aquire it's SiteRootBASE or have it in the
request.

Here's the original on how I do it on imeme.net:

http://zope.nipltd.com/public/lists/zope-archive.nsf/ByKey/9AC6C34623772730

~ethan


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Re: [Zope] Zope.org Feature Request - Product Download Counter

2000-10-10 Thread mindlace

Andy McKay wrote:
> 
> Of course the only problem with a hit counter is that high traffic requests
> mean continually writing the object into the ZODB each time it gets hit /
> downloaded, whatever. Thats why I release FSCounter which uses the file
> system. I would like to expand this to cover multiple objects...

The problem is slightly more complicated than this:  We have Apache
cache file and image objects.  This is a good thing, because they are
static, and Apache will *always* be better than Zope at serving static
content. This is a bad thing, because direct requests for files don't
ever make it to Zope.

Nonetheless, this doesn't affect the /view method.

Further, we now have the feature that the listing of products shows the
latest version, no /view method in the middle, for your direct download.

I may be able to do some parsing of the apache log files for those
things that end in tgz, tar.gz , and zip.  This would be somewhat
canonical, except for the fact that because we have cache headers set on
the file objects, they are cached downstream, and so many requests for
cache objects will never make it to our Apache at all.

~ethan

p.s. I'd really appreciate it if requests for improvements of zope.org
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Re: [Zope] Stupid questions

2000-10-11 Thread mindlace

"Manuel Amador (Rudd-O)" wrote:
> 
> Am i supposed to get "XML methods" and "Python methods" in the add
> product drop down?

Only if you've added those products to your zope installation. Both XML
methods and Python methods are considered "content objects" in the
Products organization:

http://www.zope.org/Products/content_object?query_start=21

> PD: the subject says it all. Please don't flame me.  I think we need a
> little bit more organization, some kind of comprehensive index instead
> of looking for documentation in several places.

I'm working on categorizing some of the documentation now: we should
have something (more) useful soon.

Thanks,
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Re: [Zope] Don't think so

2000-10-24 Thread mindlace

Chris Withers wrote:
> 
> Paul Winkler wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > Has anyone run up against a limitation on the number of
> > users that can be in
> > one acl_users folder? Either a hard limit or a practical
> > limit?
> 
> IIRC, zope.org's acl_users has about 11,000 people in it without too
> many problems...

We've found that it needed to become a btree folder. Half because btrees
optimize some things and half because the UI for btrees cut the
management page from 3mb to 300k.

~ethan

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Re: [Zope] Zope Email (syndication)

2000-05-29 Thread ethan mindlace fremen

Chris Withers wrote:
> 
> mindlace wrote:
> > I don't quite see why MailHost isn't "low level integration"
> 
> Does MailHost do recieves as well as sends?

No, but see below...

> > Making Zope an MTA seems like a lot of extra work.  Now, Zope as an IMAP
> > server I could get my head around...
> 
> Forgive my ignorance, but what is the difference?

An imap server stores the messages that have been recieved.  An MTA
(Mail Transport Agent) goes about sending mail from one place to
another.  If there were an IMAP server in zope, you could "recieve" the
mail as an object in zope, but it would still be delivered to zope by an
MTA.

> Archiving mailing lists shouldn't be a big issue since there are already
> Zope mailing list archives that are searchable in ways currently more
> powerful than ZCatalog has to offer.

Unless you want to extend what you can do with an email.  I would really
like to be able to take emails that people send to zope.org and
propogate them to different sections of the site, for example.
 
> If it's not necessary, then don't do it, but if it is to get true
> mailing of content into Zope then lets get started on it it now so the
> end result arrives sooner...

Based off of what you're saying, I think it would be more appropriate to
try to go for an imap server in zope.  Note that this is non-trivial too
:).

~ethan

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Re: [Zope] Zope Email (syndication)

2000-05-29 Thread ethan mindlace fremen

Chris Withers wrote:

> Which raises the question: What MTA would you use for a Zope IMAP server
> and does it matter? Again, forgive me if that's a stupid question ;-)

I would personally use exim, but I don't think it matters, if zope knows
intelligent things about it's users.  If you wanted to be a relay for a
certain set of users, you'd probably have to authenticate against
ZopeIMAP and have ZopeIMAP tell the MTA who had relay permissions.  
Anyway, that's what I do with cyrus imap.

> Yup, this sounds like mail-in content to me, which is what I'm after :-)

Mee too!
 
> Well, how do we get started? (I may not be the best person as you can
> see from my lack of knowledge in this area ;-)

Michel Pelltier has uploaded some very alpha python imap server code
that we could look at:

http://www.zope.org/Members/michel/MyWiki/IMAPServer

There's also several other open IMAP servers out there for illustrative
purposes.

~ethan

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[Zope] GVIM & ftp

2000-05-29 Thread ethan mindlace fremen

John A Chaves wrote:

> You can simulate one fairly easily.  The attached script (which would need
> to be tweaked for your environment) ftp-gets the zope object into a temp
> directory.  It also creates a Makefile in the temp directory which ftp-puts
> the object back into zope.  You can then use the GVIM "make" button (looks
> like a hammer) to save your changes and push them back to zope.

Can you put this up as a howto?

Thanks,

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[Zope] Zope Chat

2000-05-30 Thread ethan mindlace fremen

Jim and Paul are going to be availiable for a chat about Zope, Perl
Methods, and more.  Please join us Wednesday, May 31, 1:00PM EST on
irc.openprojects.net , on the #zope channel.

If you have any technical questions about joining the chat, feel free to
email me ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) and I'll help you out.

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[Zope] IRC Chat redux

2000-05-30 Thread ethan mindlace fremen

Zopistas,

I'm just posting some clarifications and follow-up.

The chat with Jim Fulton and Paul Everitt will happen at 13:00 EST/08:00
GMT, tomorrow, Wednesday the 31st.

It will be on irc.openprojects.net channel #zope.  It's the standard IRC
port- 6667 .

For those of you that are new to IRC, first you need an IRC client.

  * Windows: Almost all the windows IRC'ers I know use mirc. [1]

  * Linux: You should have XChat [2] or another IRC client installed.  
  
  * Mac: ircle [3] is well rated, but I've never used it.

More information is availiable at http://www.irchelp.org .  If you still
have problems connecting, feel free to email me.

~ethan

.. [1] http://www.mirc.com/install.html

.. [2] http://xchat.linuxpower.org/

.. [3] http://www.ircle.com/

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Re: [Zope] IRC Chat redux

2000-05-30 Thread ethan mindlace fremen

ethan mindlace fremen wrote:

> The chat with Jim Fulton and Paul Everitt will happen at 13:00 EST/08:00
> GMT, tomorrow, Wednesday the 31st.

Ouch.  The sun rises in the east, not the west.  17:00 UTC or 18:00 if
you have daylight savings.  For a complete list of what time it will be
in your city:

http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/?year=2000&mon=5&day=31&hour=17&min=0&sec=0

Thanks for your patience,

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Re: [Zope] What does it mean?

2000-05-30 Thread ethan mindlace fremen

"Morten W. Petersen" wrote:
> 
> "The Zope Gadfly product is a free Zope adapter [...] so it should not be
> used to create large databases.
> 
> What does large databases mean in this context?

AFAIK, it means "bigger than ram" because Gadfly loads tables entirely
into ram...

someone correct me if i'm wrong,

~ethan

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[Zope] testing, ignore

2000-05-31 Thread ethan mindlace fremen

 

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[Zope] Chat in 45 minutes

2000-05-31 Thread ethan mindlace fremen

The chat with Jim & Paul will be starting in 45 minutes.

IRC:

irc.openprojects.net channel #zope

A transcript will be made availiable to those who can't make it.

~ethan

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[Zope] Perl Methods: Chat with Jim and Paul

2000-05-31 Thread ethan mindlace fremen

Zopistas,

The IRC chat with Jim and Paul went well, with over 40 zopistas in
attendance. The topic was (mostly) Perl Methods and Methods in general
for the first half an hour, and the second half was open chat. 

A *condensed* and paraphrased synopsis is availiable at:
http://www.zope.org/Documentation/Chats/pl_chat

Hugo Ramos (aka Silver-Surfer) has done a wonderful log of the chat at:
http://www.zopers.org/principal/ver_principal/index_html?idx=4

A big thanks to all the zopistas that participated!

If you have any ideas for new Chat topics or speakers, please visit
http://www.zope.org/Documentation/Chats/ChatTopics



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[Zope] The Zope Weekly News

2000-06-01 Thread ethan mindlace fremen
  will be updated accordingly.

o Some basic hooks to support virtual hosting (a la
  SiteAccess) have been designed and will be added 
  to allow product authors to write virtual hosting 
  support without fragile dependencies on parts of
  the Zope core.

o Finish changes to the undo machinery that will
  expose a more appropriate subset of undo-able
  transactions to the user. The set exposed now
  was fine at one time, but as the line between
  "site management" and "site user" continues to
  blur, a more restricted subset will make undo
  easier to delegate to a broader range of users.

o Get the minimal Observable default implemention
  checked in to the Zope core. Note that for 2.2 
  at least, the only impact of this will be that 
  ZClasses will be able to subclass the default 
  Observable implementation. While we suspect that
  many builtin Zope objects could benefit from being 
  Observable in the longer run, we want to let the
  interface and default implementation shake out in 
  application usage before taking that step.
  
o Some misc. catalog bugs need to be closed.

This week in the PTK Community

  -- by Tres Seaver

 * There's one new bug, one closed bug, and 16 outstanding
   bugs in the "Portal Toolkit Tracker",
   http://www.zope.org/Products/PTK/Tracker.
   There are also 14 current feature requests.

 * "Front door revamped", http://www.zope.org/Products/PTK/ 
   to give better access to PTK resources.

 * As an initial step toward DigitalCreations' goal
   of opening up Zope development to the community, we
   have invited the following members of the PTK
   community to jump through the hoops needed to 
   establish them as CVS and Tracker contributors:

   - Chris Withers

   - Steve Alexander

   - Bill Anderson

   - Chip Vanek

   - Kevin Dangoor

   - Dan Pierson

 * Steve Alexander "performed the first community checkin", 
   http://lists.zope.org/pipermail/zope-ptk/2000-May/000885.html
   to the PTK CVS repository:

   *...and the crowd goes wild!*

 * Steve also "fixed the recent breakage", 
   http://lists.zope.org/pipermail/zope-ptk/2000-May/000896.html
   introduced by tightening security on ZCatalog


 * Dan Pierson has code ready to check in to integrate
   the PTK with the new LoginManager;  
   he is "awaiting comment", 
   http://lists.zope.org/pipermail/zope-ptk/2000-May/000871.html
   by the community

Looking Ahead

 * Tres Seaver is drafting a vision document for the
   "next-generation",
http://www.zope.org/Products/PTK/ZWiki/OnceAndFuturePTK
of the PTK:

 * Chip Vanek has done some work on a new "skin" for
   the PTK.  Watch for him to "post it",
http://www.zope.org/Products/PTK/ZWiki/ContributedPTKProducts

 * Landing Dan's LoginManager patch.



This week in the Zope Web

  -- by Ethan Fremen

  * The Zope Web fell off the map over Memorial Day weekend,
as all the magic smoke got out of the Network Interface 
Card in the primary nameserver.  The problem was rectified,
but the mailing lists suffered indegestion for some time
afterwards.

  * There was an IRC chat with Jim and Paul about Perl Methods.
Can Camels have Zen?  Check "the summary",
http://www.zope.org/Documentation/Chats/ChatTopics/
to find this and other exciting answers.

  * There is a "Tracker for zope.org", http://www.zope.org/Tracker!
Please submit your bugs and feature requests here.  
Don't forget to check to see if someone has already submitted your
request.

  * There is a "mailing list for zope.org",
http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-web.
Join if you want to be involved in making zope.org ever more
elucidating.

Bugs/features addressed

   24 open bugs and feature requests lie within the tracker currently:
   4 bugs have been resolved and 2 accepted.

  * "Mountable Filesystem has been added",
http://www.zope.org/Tracker/2
so that Wikis stay unpacked to track their history.

  * Loging in and out now takes you "back where you came from",
http://www.zope.org/Tracker/6

  * Clicking on Spotlight "takes you to the old spotlights",
http://www.zope.org/Tracker/7

  * All zope-related mailing lists "are now listed",
http://www.zope.org/Resources/MailingLists.
Thanks to rungaya for submitting "this request",
http://www.zope.org/Tracker/25

  * Products can now be sorted according to Author, Date
and Title: The request of many, including Evan Gibson,
rungaya, and mindlace :)
More "product sorting features",
http://www.zope.org/Tracker/18
have been requested.

Zope Mail

There was a net gain of 78 subscriptions to all the
mailing lists @zope.org in the week ending May 21.

  * z

[Zope] ping

2000-06-05 Thread ethan mindlace fremen

ping

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[Zope] Documentation Chat!

2000-06-05 Thread ethan mindlace fremen

Zopistas!

Amos Latteier and Michel Pelletier will be on #zope Tuesday, 19:00 EST
June 06th, to talk about the state of documentation in zope.

More information is availiable at:
http://www.zope.org/Documentation/Chats/

Be there or be square.

~ethan

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Re: [Zope] Zope admin/backup question

2000-06-05 Thread ethan mindlace fremen

Andrew Diller wrote:
> 
> Backing up Data.fs everynight--- is it in a usable state if it is backed up while 
>Zope is
> running?

new or changed objects are just appended to the existing file.  Anything
appended whilst copying will not be in the backup.  The backup, however,
should be fine.

> Also, are the Data.fs.in and Data.fs.lock files necessary for restore or 'moving' a 
>Zope
> install? I have already just moved the Data.fs file over to a virgin Zope install 
>and it
> seems to be working OK.

Data.fs.in is an index that helps zope get started faster.  If you start
without it, then zope has to read the entire Data.fs file.  Data.fs.lock
file is the file that says that the data.fs is in use.  If you delete
this whilst running, and start zope again on the same zodb, Very Bad
Things(tm) could happen.

~emf
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Re: [Zope] CHAT

2000-06-05 Thread ethan mindlace fremen

Gonçalo Gomes wrote:
> 
> Silver_Surfer: how do you see the future of Zope fighting against PHP
> space on the web?
> 
> Jim: I don't know much (enough) about PHP, but from what I vaguely
> know, PHP methods seem like a logical step.
> 
> this answer was done to my question (i am lucipher) and i asked
> 
> "how do you define zope and php?"

Hey, that's cool. When a similar question gets asked by several people,
for the summary, I have to choose.  I thought it was more ... poetic as
I summarized it.

~ethan

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Re: [Zope] Virtual host admin under Apache+ZServer+SiteAccess

2000-06-05 Thread ethan mindlace fremen

J M Cerqueira Esteves wrote:

> However, I'm using Apache with ZServer and SiteAccess for virtual
> hosting as documented in http://www.zope.org/Members/anser/apache_zserver,
> and this has a nasty implication: once I activate a SiteRoot inside some
> Zope folder "/parrot" for making it the top folder of a virtual host
> http://parrot.bar/, the use of URLs under http://parrot.bar/ is forced
> whenever administering content under the "/parrot" folder, even if
> arriving from a foo.bar:8080 document: the browser is then no longer
> connecting through the secure channel but talking directly with
> http://parrot.bar/.  Of course this could also be redirected, but not so
> easily.
> 
> In this example, it would be nice to be able to administer the contents
> of http://parrot.bar/ either via parrot.bar (typically for less
> sensitive content, end users) or via foo.bar:8080 (more delicate
> administrative tasks, administrators which know how to encrypt
> communication with ssh).  Is there interest (or is it feasible) to make
> virtual hosting support evolve to allow this? 

You can do it now with a properly formed siteaccess rule.  I think this
code works, but I don't know if Zope "sees" localhost or foo.bar :
change as necessary.

Get the hostname:

 
  
   http://foo.bar:8080/')">
   If we're managing /parrot, make sure to reset the SiteRootPATH
   

   
  
 


At this point you need to leave SiteRootBASE & PATH blank in all folders
and set them programmatically with the Access Rule. You could probably
generalize this.

~emf
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Re: [Zope] Zope Email (syndication)

2000-06-06 Thread ethan mindlace fremen

"Karl G. Ulbrich" cogently stated:

> If the goal is mail-in content, I'm not sure I understand IMAP to be
> anything approaching what you want:  IMAP doesn't ACCEPT messages,
> at least not any of the IMAP servers I've seen, it serves messages
> up to clients (one of which could be Zope, like WorldPilot does).

I think you're right. I thought about this for a while, and realized
what I want is for Zope to publish imap like it does webdav &c.

> MailMan supports external archivers (how, I don't know, just saw it
> mentioned), and with the right archiver plugged in, that would
> give you the capability to archive email lists however you wanted.

This is exactly what (personally) I want to do:
http://www.zope.org/Members/mindlace/MailZopeMan
 
[snip awesome reference]

~ethan

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Re: [Zope] detail record editing

2000-06-06 Thread ethan mindlace fremen

Robert Del Huerto wrote:

> +---+---+-++
> |   |Doe|Jane |$100.00 |
> +---+---+-++
> | X |Doe|John |$250.00 |
> +---+---+-++
> |   |Haggis |Meister  |$100.00 |
> +---+---+-++
> |   |Zoper  |Doper|$723.00 |
> +---+---+-++
> | +--+  +--+  +--+ |
> | |   ADD|  |  MODIFY  |  |  DELETE  | |
> | +--+  +--+  +--+ |
> +--+

You can have as many action="submit"'s as you want.

Untested:





The form only submits the value of "successfull" form items, so, on your
form's action method:



  do your adding thing

  
do your modifying thing
  
do your deleting thing
  


~ethan @ digicool

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[Zope] Zope Weekly News for June 7th

2000-06-07 Thread ethan mindlace fremen

This week's somewhat abbreviated ZWN includes Zope at
LinuxTag and the Open Source Convention, lots of
documentation progress, including a chat, a new home
for Zope Studio and more!
 
The opinions expressed in Zope Weekly news are solely the author's,
and not the opinions of Digital Creations, The Zope Community
at-large, or the Spanish Inquisition.

The Zope Weekly News now has a "permanent home",
http://www.zope.org/Documentation/ZWN.

And Now For Something Completely Different:

Coming Events

  LinuxTag

There will be a Zope booth at the "LinuxTag",
http://www.linuxtag.de
in Stuttgart, Germany from June 29th to July 2nd.
In addition to the booth that will be there for the 
whole conference, there will be 2 rooms available 
for talks and discussions on the business day, 
Thursday 29th.

We are still looking for people who want help 
organizing the conference, give some talks and 
attend the booth. Generally, it would also be great
to know who is planning to be at the conference.
Please send feedback to "Stephan Richter",
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
See "Zope at Linuxtag",
http://www.zope.org/Members/Linuxtag/
for the most up-to-date information.
  
  The Open Source Convention

   This "enormous convention",
   http://conferences.oreilly.com/oscon2000/
   hosted by O'reilly, is shaping up to be pretty
   interesting.  Aside from the State of Python,
   given by Guido von Rossum, there's also going
   to be a "talk on the CERT Advisory",
http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/w/evening_events.html
   about cross-site scripting, a web-wide security 
   issue that the Zope Community was among the first
   to begin implementing security policies for: they'll
   land with zope 2.2.
   
   Zope is going to be at the conference in force,
   with:
 
 - Paul "opening eyes to the Zope-Mozilla initiative",
   http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/e_sess/853
 
 - Ryan telling the world "you can have web
   IMAP and collaboration",
   http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/e_sess/725

 - Christopher, as always, concentrating
   on the "edification of the community",
   http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/w/python_tutorials.html

Documentation

   -- by Amos Lattier

 This Week

  * Stephan Richter finished reviewing, fixing, and expanding
  online help content for the Zope management screens.
  We hope to get him set up with CVS and get this checked
  in later this week or next week.

  In addition to brining the help content up to date, he is
  converting it to use Structured-Text. This will make editing
  help pages much easier and will eliminate the two step process
  of editing XML, rendering to HTML and then checking the HTML
  into CVS. This should make life much easier for the Zope team
  when they are documenting their work.

  * Amos released updated "Zope training material",
http://www.zope.org/Members/Amos/TrainingSlidesAnnounce
that he and Michel Pelletier have been working on for
the past couple weeks.

  There are twenty slide presentations which cover such topics
  as DTML, application design, and developing Python products.

  Note: the PowerPoint slides are built by a Python script
  that reads Structured Text and talks to PowerPoint over COM - cool.

  * Michel and Amos participated in an IRC chat about
  documentation. A transcript of the chat "is availiable",
  http://www.zope.org/Documentation/Chats
  Thanks to everyone who participated and posed great
  questions. We even got a volunteer commitment out of
  the chat - way to go ZDP folks!

  * Amos is putting together a wiki that details all official Zope
  documentation projects, their schedules and status. Look for an
  announcement before the end of the week.
  We hope that this along with weekly ZWN summaries will give folks
  a much better idea of what were doing on the documentation front.

  * Michel is working on turning his in progress O'Reilly book on Zope
  into a piece of official Zope documentation. If all goes well the
  book will replace the current Guides. We are really excited about
  this and think that if we are successful that this will do a
  tremendous amount for Zope documentation.

 Next Week

  * We plan to complete and make public the Wiki that describes all
  official Zope documentation projects, their schedules and status.

  * We plan to focus on getting docs in shape for Zope 2.2 Specifically
  this means shoring up the help system docs, API docs, and tutorial.
  This all won't get done next week, but hopefully we can make some
  good progress and stay on track to have everything up to date for
  the 2.2 final release.
  If we are really fast we may even sneak a DTML reference into the
  Zope 2.2 final release.

  * Hopefully we will have final word on the status of converting Michel's
  Book into official documentation. That means we can start the process
  of making the Book public and opening it up to community critique and

Re: [Zope] Greetings,

2000-06-07 Thread ethan mindlace fremen

CURTIS David wrote:
> 
> Greetings,
> 
> I wish to use use the data of the database file in my html code.  For example,
>  this database was last updated on 06/06/2000.  I suppose that there must be a 
>dynamic html tag that zope uses.  What could it be?  I looked at all the 
>documentation and have yet to discover it.Any help is 
>apprechiated.

I think you're looking for bobobase_modification_time , like



It's called that for hysterical reasons.

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Re: [Zope] www.zope.org cataloging server problem?

2000-06-07 Thread ethan mindlace fremen

Hung Jung Lu wrote:
> 
> I have been trying to catalog a "News Item" and a "Product Release" inside
> www.zope.org, but I get the error

I'm working on this one.

thanks,

--
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(thanks to MJ for the "correct" spelling of zopatista)

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Re: [Zope] Zope.org Hidden Stats

2000-06-07 Thread ethan mindlace fremen

"J. Atwood" wrote:
> 
> Just making my daily visit to Zope.org and stumbled across the statistics at
> 
> http://www.zope.org/About/Statistics
> 
> Very nice...
> 
> There is a bunch more on the about page
> 
> http://www.zope.org/About/
> 
> Cheers to DC and letting us see what they are doing behind the scenes
> How are you going to spend that $1,000 when you get ZEO working? :)

Thanks!

Why do you call them hidden?  /About/ just shows you a synopsis of hardware,
software, and Statistics.

We might change our priorities with the move to ZEO :)

~ethan

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Re: [Zope] www.zope.org cataloging server problem?

2000-06-08 Thread ethan mindlace fremen

ethan mindlace fremen wrote:
> 
> Hung Jung Lu wrote:
> >
> > I have been trying to catalog a "News Item" and a "Product Release" inside
> > www.zope.org, but I get the error
> 
> I'm working on this one.

Now fixed.

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Re: [Zope] FW: troubles with installing zope

2000-06-08 Thread ethan mindlace fremen

Andy Gayton wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I'm trying to install zope on an alpha box running CompaqTrue64 4.0F.  I've
> created a seperate account to run zope under.  I've installed zope
> under this user's home directory.

> Stack overflow: pid 23282, proc python, addr 0x14085ffe8, pc 0x120038c18

Which zope did you get? from source, I assume.  If so, what python are you
running?

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Re: [Zope] user contributions to Zope.org

2000-06-08 Thread ethan mindlace fremen

Grahm,

We're definitely going to have things that are more like this.  We are
definately going to allow you to "hook" your members items into different parts
of zope.org and even, possibly, allowing people who use the built-in help of
zope.2.2 to see your howto.

There's going to be more discussion, and action, in the zope-web mailing list:
http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-web

I'd really appreciate it if further suggestions & discussion along these lines
occurred there.

Thanks for your input,

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Re: [Zope] Zope.org Hidden Stats

2000-06-09 Thread ethan mindlace fremen

Tony McDonald wrote:

> If you're running Zope from behind Apache/PCGI then you *have* to run
> Zope single threaded. Am I correct?

I think Martijn Pieters answers this question in the Zope, Apache/NT,
Reliability Issues
thread.

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Re: [Zope] WorldPilot - Regular messages are attachments? (PatchFix)

2000-06-09 Thread ethan mindlace fremen

Paul Gresham wrote:
> 
> Excellent, thanks Bryan. I have another question? Do you have problems with
> browsers not obtaining the correct filenames of attachments when they are
> downloaded, i.e. the file becomes ATT0002.DAT or similar? I have this
> problem and also if I choose to download a file and then cancel the dialog,
> everything seems to get stuck, and I have to close the browser and start
> again.

I have the same problem.  All attachments, when downloaded, become "getpart".  A
simple rename works, but I find it highly obnoxious.

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[Zope] dtml syntax (was YA newbie question)

2000-06-09 Thread ethan mindlace fremen

Tino Wildenhain wrote:

> 
> the reason for this is: anything inside "" is a python expression,

mindlace puts on his "DTML cop" hat.

Ok, with practically all dtml tags, you can do:

  or 

which can be abbreviated as:

 or 

So anything inside "" is not necessarily a python expression.  Anything inside
expr="" most certainly is.

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Re: [Zope] dtmll-in variables

2000-06-09 Thread ethan mindlace fremen

josh on wrote:

> great, thanks a lot!
> 
> I think that this page should be updated with this info:
> 
> http://www.zope.org/Documentation/Guides/DTML-HTML/DTML.7.2.html
> 
> unless I am wrong.

It should.  However, because the method used to generate the "old" guides is not
the method that will be used to generate the new guides.  The new guides, which
will be cvs backed and much more amenable to community update, will be coming
along: please see the "documentation chat",
http://www.zope.org/Documentation/Chats/doc_chat

for more information.

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[Zope] XML Chat with Jim, Brian, and FourThought

2000-06-12 Thread ethan mindlace fremen

Zopatistas,

Jim Fulton, Brian Lloyd, and the FourThought team will be on #zope Wednesday,
June 14th at 13:00 EST to chat about XML/XSLT integration into Zope!

See the world clock to check for local play times:
http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/?year=2000&mon=6&day=14&hour=17&min=0&sec=0
The chat page has more information:
http://www.zope.org/Documentation/Chats

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Re: [Zope] Oh no !! How to undo without manage interface ?

2000-06-12 Thread ethan mindlace fremen

Andreas Elvers wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> well... I did it. I was trying to install a second virtual host within
> zope and after adding an access_rule I was locked out.

http://my.site.foo/__no_before_traverse__/manage

lets you access the site without SiteAccess enabled.

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Re: [Zope] RSSChannel

2000-06-13 Thread ethan mindlace fremen

Oleg Broytmann wrote:
> 
> Hello!
> 
>It is amazing how awful :) it is to find unlisted Product on Zope.org :(
>Where can I find RSSChannel? Thanks...

Maybe you didn't know it was called Site Summary, but if you sort by title, and
get to the S' range, Site Summary is listed with this blurb:

Site Summary allows you to construct an RSS file, suitable for inclusion as a
"My ... 

We're looking into sorting products by category, which may help this.

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Re: [Zope] Newbie alert! Frustration right off the bat...

2000-06-13 Thread ethan mindlace fremen

Rob Brandt wrote:
> 
> and so it starts...
> 
> I'm determined to learn zope for my   next project and can't even get
> past the tutorial.
> 
> Using zope v.2.16 on windows.
> 
> I get to the part where I create the 1st DTML method (index_html) and
>   zope reports an error:
> 
> Error Type: Bad Request
> Error Value: the id index_html is invalid - it is already in use.
> 
> This is in a virtually empty system.  I suspect that the problem is in
> initializing the tuturial.  I suspect further that the tutorial text and
> graphic figures don't jibe.

Rob, there is already an index_html object in the folder.  You can just edit
this, I suspect.

> The beginning of the tutorial says to create the ZAcme folder under my
> root installation.  I take this to mean at the main manage entry point,
> rather than my literal root directory (as it says further down the
> page).  When I do this, the ZAcme folder shows up in the workspace but
> the illustrations don't show this.  I continue along and end up getting
> the above error.

Yes, it does mean the root directory of your zope folder.  When you create a new
folder, it has two checkboxes. one of them asks whether you want to create a
public interface:  This is index_html.  Then you go into the directory and edit
the index_html as the tutorial suggests.
 
> I also tried manually creating folders in my actual root directory (C:\)
> and in the zope directory (C:\Program Files\ZAcme) and I get the above
> error every time.

None of the files inside zope are in your "Real" directories: they're all in one
file called Data.fs , which, if your zope is at ZAcme, may be found at
ZAcme\Data.fs .

Hope this helps,

~
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Re: [Zope] Zope as a program

2000-06-13 Thread ethan mindlace fremen

"Malcolm C. Mallette" wrote:
> 
> I was so mad I could not type correctly the first time. Second message
> is correct.

Hm. What is bothering you about zope?

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Re: [Zope] virtual hosts with ZServer

2000-06-13 Thread ethan mindlace fremen

Alex Gould wrote:
> 
> My apologies if this question has been answered before, but I couldn't
> figure it out from available documentation or list archives.
> 
> I run a server for some student groups off a machine in my dorm and I'm
> teaching myself Zope (slowly).  I deal with the dynamic IP address by
> using several *.penguinpowered.com domains.  I would like to set up one
> or more virtual hosts such that http://host1.penguinpowered.com/ points
> to some folder in the Zope database.  It seems this is possible using
> Set Access Rule and SiteRoot objects, but how?  Any help is
> appreciated.  I am now using plain zserver 2.1.6.

I have answered this before :)

This is the access rule I use to match subdomains with a folder that has the
same name as the subdomain:

Get subdomain:

Is there a folder named as this subdomain?
  
 
Set logical root: 
Add physical root:
 
   
  http://penguinpowered.com/NoHostHere')">
   


Then there has to be a site root in each folder, where the path and base are
*empty*.

Hope that helps,

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[Zope] Zope Weekly News June 14th

2000-06-14 Thread ethan mindlace fremen

LinuxTag, the Open Source Conference, Launch of Zope 2.2.0b1,
a Docs Wiki and much Documentation work, PTK gains steam,
Guido's time machine stolen, Improved Products page
and more!

The opinions expressed in Zope Weekly news are solely the authors',
and not the opinions of Digital Creations, The Zope Community
at-large, or the Spanish Inquisition.

The Zope Weekly News now has a "permanent home",
http://www.zope.org/Documentation/ZWN.

And Now For Something Completely Different:

Coming Events

  LinuxTag

There will be a Zope booth at the "LinuxTag",
http://www.linuxtag.de
in Stuttgart, Germany from June 29th to July 2nd.
In addition to the booth that will be there for the 
whole conference, there will be 2 rooms available 
for talks and discussions on the business day, 
Thursday 29th.  There will not be an additional charge
for the two rooms on buisness day.

We are still looking for people who want help 
organizing the conference, give some talks and 
attend the booth. Generally, it would also be great
to know who is planning to be at the conference.
Please send feedback to "Stephan Richter",
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
See "Zope at Linuxtag",
http://www.zope.org/Members/Linuxtag/
for the most up-to-date information.
  
  The Open Source Convention

   This "enormous convention",
   http://conferences.oreilly.com/oscon2000/
   hosted by O'reilly, is shaping up to be pretty
   interesting.  Aside from the State of Python,
   given by Guido von Rossum, there's also going
   to be a "talk on the CERT Advisory",
http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/w/evening_events.html
   about cross-site scripting, a web-wide security 
   issue that the Zope Community was among the first
   to begin implementing security policies for: they'll
   land with zope 2.2.
   
   Zope is going to be at the conference in force,
   with:
 
 - Paul "opening eyes to the Zope-Mozilla initiative",
   http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/e_sess/853
 
 - Ryan telling the world "you can have web
   IMAP and collaboration",
   http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/e_sess/725

 - Christopher, as always, concentrating
   on the "edification of the community",
   http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/w/python_tutorials.html

Documentation

   -- by Amos Lattier

  This Week

* We've released the Docs Wiki

  http://www.zope.org/Wikis/Docs

  This is your source for information on official
  Zope documentation. You can find out about all
  our projects including their status and timelines.
  You can also see what Amos, Michel and Stephan are
  doing each week. Plus, since it's a wiki you can
  add your comments.

* The bulk of this week's work will be spent trying to
  get the online docs ship shape for Zope 2.2 final. Mike
  is finishing up the API docs, Amos is working on the
  help system framework and tutorial and Stephan is working
  on the management help content.

* Mike is working with O'Reilly this week to clarify the
  status of his book. If all goes well we should have a
  definitive answer on making it official Zope documentation
  by the end of the week.

  Next Week

* Next week will be spent finishing any bits that need finalizing
  for Zope 2.2 that we don't finish this week.

* Hopefully next week we can begin making Mike's book public.

Zope Status

  -- by Brian Lloyd

Summary

  We finally beat the todo list and got the 2.2 beta 1 release 
  "out the door",
  http://www.zope.org/Products/Zope/2.2.0b1
  (and there was much rejoicing!).

Last week highlights

7 more collector issues were closed last week, and the remaining 
items on the todo list for 2.2 beta 1 were knocked out. The needed 
hooks for non-invasive virtual hosting support were added, as well 
as better Undo handling, several catalog fixes and some long overdue 
fixes to the way that HTTP HEAD requests are handled that should 
make Zope more friendly to various spidering tools. This week's 
good-buddies-of-the-core:

  o Chris Withers and others for forcing some action on the HEAD
issue

  o Toby Dickenson and Butch Landingin contributed fixes for ZCatalog

  o taz sent a patch to un-screw what I screwed up last time 
I worked on MailHost :^)

Next week

Next week we'll be absorbing feedback on the beta release and planning 
for final. More importantly, work will begin in earnest on the "opening 
the development process" initiative. I hope to get a basic "Zope core 
development"- focused area set up, publish the draft Zope roadmap for 
comment and start working out some post-2.2 plans.

This week in the PTK Community
  
  -- by Tres Seaver

 * David Brown, author of 
   "Zope Fish":http://zopefish.weblogs.com/ZopeFishRelease,
   agreed to join TeamPTK.  Welcome!

 * We arrived at protocol for gaining consensus on proposed changes:

   - Create a tracker issue embodying the proposal (which then
 e

Re: [Zope] virtual hosts with ZServer

2000-06-14 Thread ethan mindlace fremen

Alexander N Gould wrote:
> 
> On Tue, 13 Jun 2000, ethan mindlace fremen wrote:
> 
> > 
> >   
> >  
> > Set logical root: 
> > Add physical root: 
> >  
> >
> >   http://penguinpowered.com/NoHostHere')">
> >
> > 
> 
> This almost works, but then even the superuser can't access these folders
> (unauthorized)!
> Help!

Hmm.  superuser can't manage the folders? They should be able to.  I assume you
mean by "almost works" it doesn't let you manage?

First, you can always disable siteaccess by using __no_before_traverse__ as the
first item in the path.

Second, once you set this up, you cannot manage the folder except from it's url
( host1.penguinpowered.com/manage should work)

These are kind of stabs in the dark. If you could show me some urls that don't
work, then maybe I can do some more.

Thanks,

~ethan

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Re: [Zope] WorldPilot - Regular messages are attachments? (PatchFix)

2000-06-14 Thread ethan mindlace fremen

Bryan Stillwell wrote:
> 
> Ok, I fixed the problem with files trying to be saved as ATT0001.DAT, but
> they're still messed up in Mozilla (which your using, right ethan?) where
> they save as getpart (I think this is a Mozilla bug, and not a WorldPilot
> bug). I also fixed the bug where if it's an image (jpeg, gif, etc.) it
> gets displayed instead of downloaded.  I've attached the patch which fixes
> both of these problems.

Ah, mozilla.  I can deal with getpart.
 
> I also have new RPMs of WorldPilot that has all of my patches applied so
> far here: http://www.verinet.com/~arcane/worldpilot/

Wow, thanks for the patches & then packaging them, brian!

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[Zope] zope-web issues was: (Re: [Zope] How do you search Tiny Tables?)

2000-06-14 Thread ethan mindlace fremen

Graham Chiu wrote:

> There is a TinyTables+ product, but da***ed if I can find it thru the
> search mechanism on www.zope.com

Graham, I'm trying to get the search engine more informative.  When I did a
search for "TinyTable", TinyTables + was the fourth item listed. I'm going to
work on adding descriptions to the search view.
 
> The new presentation of products also means that there is much more text
> to scroll thru.

Heh.  And Phillip Eby is telling me to put whitespace between the items, which
would make it more scrolling ...

There may be a "category" option soon.

> How about an option to present a product listing ordered by name, and
> case insensitive...

We can do name, I'll look into case insensitive.

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[Zope] this is not the message you are looking for

2000-06-21 Thread ethan mindlace fremen

move along

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Re: [Zope] Zope jobs.

2000-06-21 Thread ethan mindlace fremen

Erik Enge wrote:
> 
> On Wed, 21 Jun 2000, Patrick Lewis wrote:
> 
> > Funny you should mention this. I have mocked up a job board at:
> >
> > www.zope.org/Members/plewis/job_board
> 
> Let's hope they're not _too_ slow ;-).

who you calling slow? :-P

Well, I'm johnny on the spot on this one, and I just finished getting
set up here in scenic Fredericksburg.  Well, sort of.  Anyway, I can
send email.



I want to have a whole site dedicated to commerce-type activities.  I'm
spending this week putting together a "vision thing" for the zope web so
that where we go next will *scale*.


So I ask for your patience: I will be moving on this soon.

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[Zope] SiteAccess & 2.1.6

2000-06-21 Thread ethan mindlace fremen

Oleg Broytmann wrote:
 
>I run 2.1.4 too, and for the same reason - ZSQL and SiteAccess. I am
> afraid I couldn't upgrade to 2.1.5+ nor 2.2+ due to SiteAccess :(

Oleg,

I am using SiteAccess and 2.1.6 at iMeme, and they play fine together.

SiteAccess is also tracking 2.2, if you take a look at it.

~ethan

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Re: [Zope] ZODB or not ZODB?

2000-06-21 Thread ethan mindlace fremen

Casey Duncan wrote:

> Is ZODB up to the task of storing this quantity of objects? What problems
> might I run into? Is it a wise idea, could a data.fs file of this size
> (~3-400MB) become too easily corrupted? Should I use a separate data.fs file
> just to store the documents (ie using mountedFileStorage)? Or is it better
> to use method #1 or #2? Information from anyone with experience in this
> regard is greatly appreciated.

Casey,

Zope.org is 375 MB packed, and it grows by 100 MB a *day*.  There are
>8500 member folders.  When you get this many objects in a folder, accessing the 
>folder (though not the objects themselves) gets *slow*.

more info here:

http://www.zope.org/Wikis/zope-dev/ReallyBigFolders

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Re: [Zope] Big folders

2000-06-21 Thread ethan mindlace fremen

Jimmie Houchin wrote:
> My apologies if this covered somewhere.

no, but it is talked about:

http://www.zope.org/Wikis/zope-dev/ReallyBigFolders

~ethan

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Re: [Zope] Multiple virtual hosts and domains

2000-06-21 Thread ethan mindlace fremen

Alex Gould wrote:
> 
> Hugo Ramos wrote:
> 
> > After testing SiteAccess for about 100 times... i still can't get zope to
> > serve multiple virtual hosts and domains...

[...]

> I just recently asked this question and got it to work.  This setup
> works if you have several subdomains 'sitea.domain.tld' and
> 'siteb.domain.tld' etc.  It may have to be modified to work with other
> setups - don't ask me how!

but please do look at Evan's excellent documentation, where he does
cover several examples.

 http://www.zope.org/Members/4am/SiteAccess/info

> -  create folders sitea, siteb, and so on in your root zodb directory
> -  put a siteroot in each folder, leaving all fields except name blank
> -  make a dtml method in the root directory called virtual_hosts or
> something, consisting of the following script:
> 
> Get subdomain:
> 

[snip]

quick note: Access rules don't care if you leave out the dtml-comment
tags.

> This should work, but don't ask me how (credit goes to Ethan Mindlace
> Freeman, who gave me these instructions).  Good luck!

it's Fremen, as in spice, giant worms, arrakis ... :-)

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Re: [Zope] newbie question

2000-06-22 Thread ethan mindlace fremen

Alexander N Gould wrote:
> 
> Now that I've set up some virtual hosts off my zserver, I have another
> question.  These sites (each in a folder in the zope DB) share a lot of
> data in the form of some custom zobjects representing contacts, calendar
> items, and posts to discussion boards.  If I put these objects in folders
> on the root level, how do I access them from dtml methods somewhere else?
> Or am I going about this all wrong?





A revamped "transparent folder" will allow you to make global objects
more easily sometime in the near future (after 2.2 release)

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Re: [Zope] Adding users via external method

2000-06-22 Thread ethan mindlace fremen

Timothy Grant wrote:

> I'm working on a project where it would be very nice to add all the original
> users via a script.
> 
> I'm working with an external method that should--I believe use manage_user()
> to add the users.

I use a dtml_method for this, actually. I don't know how to do it with
an external method (or why you would want to).

I have an external method that does external things, like call adduser
on the system, but the things you do inside the ZODB are probably better
done in a Product or just a regular method.

hope that helps,

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Re: [Zope] Re: SiteAccess & 2.1.6

2000-06-25 Thread ethan mindlace fremen

"Wright, Geoff" wrote:
> 
> Oleg Broytmann writes:
> 
> > > I am using SiteAccess and 2.1.6 at iMeme, and they play
> > > fine together.
> >
> > This is one success story among millions failures. I
> > certainly would not upgrade to 2.1.6.

Oleg, you may indeed have had problems with SQL methods, but if you can
repeatably make 2.1.6 not work with SiteAccess 1.0.1 , you should let us
know about it.  I don't think there are millions of failures with
SiteAccess.
 
> I am running SiteAccess on two 2.1.6 installs -- one on a RedHat 6.1 box and
> the other on a RH6.2 box.  Both work like a champ.
> 
> These were both fresh 2.1.6 installs.  Does the problem typically occur
> w/upgrades or did I just get lucky twice?  I ask because I have a 2.1.4
> install that I've been planning to upgrade -- and it serves several domains
> and depends heavily upon SiteAccess.

I don't believe you were lucky.  I have had no problems whatsoever with
SiteAccess (aside from known issues).

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Re: [Zope] ZPhotoAlbum

2000-06-25 Thread ethan mindlace fremen

Mechtild Hofmann wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> I have a Problem with "Photo". When I will add  one, I get the
> message: The _imaging C module is not installed
> I have installed an folder .../lib/Python/Pil ... It is not enough.
> But I don't know, where I found  _imaging C and which file does it
> use.

You don't appear to have the python imaging library installed.  You need
this installed in order to use ZPhoto.
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Re: [Zope] HTML Editors that recognize DTML (was bastardized form of XML)

2000-06-25 Thread ethan mindlace fremen

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> OK, now the same question (what HTML editor understands / can be
> made to understand DTML), but rund on Linux instead of Windows?
> Right now, I use vi. I'll have to try the vim ftp plugins I've
> seen on the list.
> Anything else that works?

you can extend vim to tag hilight dtml, if you want.  I'd certainly love
to see it. http://www.vim.org/lang.html would be where to start.

I think you could do the same thing with emacs, if you were so inclined.

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Re: [Zope] DTML syntax' not OO?

2000-06-25 Thread ethan mindlace fremen

"Coleman, Bryan" wrote:
> 
> DTML syntax' not OO? Coming from python trying to learn DTML is very
> awkward. It seems that there is a different way of doing everything and this
> has been very frustrating. Is there an underlying theme to the syntax I am
> not picking up on or was this not a concern for creating the language. The
> short hand for variables is an example, because it is so different from the
> long hand method. The python tags are a little better but the documentation
> on them is a little sketchy. The right editor would be able to use them just
> as easily as the  style.

Well, it is OO in the sense that a DTML method is a method of it's
folder, and a DTML Document is an object.  However, if you have ideas on
how it should be, please wander over to the DTMLWiki and give your
input:

http://www.zope.org/Members/4am/DTMLWiki/FrontPage
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Re: [Zope] Disabling tracebacks

2000-06-25 Thread ethan mindlace fremen

Matt Behrens wrote:

> That's cool, but that just comments out the tracebacks.  How can I
> make them disappear entirely?  Or is that code hacking :-)  (I just
> noticed zope.org is just commenting them too...)

http://zope.nipltd.com/public/lists/zope-archive.nsf/ByKey/ECACFFAB06D4E55E

I think answers your question: I found it by searching for the word
"traceback" at the mailing list archives maintained by our NIP friends: 
They are linked from the Mailing List pages on Zope.org.

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Re: [Zope] geting the type of an object from within dtml ???

2000-06-25 Thread ethan mindlace fremen

Thierry Nabeth wrote:

> for instance:
> 
> does not return the correct type.

 works.  You can also use things like


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Re: [Zope] (no subject)

2000-06-26 Thread ethan mindlace fremen

Luc Tonin wrote:
> 
> does anybody know how to have some statistic about each web pages
> under zope?? each pages is da result of query on a mysql database !
> any id ???
> thx by advance

I don't know if this is what you mean, but you can use webalizer or
another statistics package on the log file created by zope. If you run
it behind apache, you can use the log file apache creates.

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Re: [Zope] More verbose zope errors

2000-06-26 Thread ethan mindlace fremen

Riku Voipio wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Is there any way to meke Zope be more verbose when hitting errors?
> Something like:
> 
> Error Type: TypeError
> Error Value: illegal argument type for built-in operation
> 
> 
> Sucks it ass off to find where it came from. What operation?
> what argument? what line?

Are you saying that the traceback (found commented out in the source
code of the page) is unhelpful?  Also, if you start zope with the -D
flag, the tracebacks will be uncommented (will show up on the page).

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[Zope] database connection in zope

2000-06-27 Thread ethan mindlace fremen

Mohideen,

The zope mailing lists are the best place to answer these sorts of
questions.
To subscribe, go to http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope .

In the mean time, I am forwarding this message to the list, perhaps they
can help:

Forwarded message:

hi
 thanks for your replay
 
 from the zope documentation, i cannot get  the
relevent information(datbase connection method)

 sorry for the distrub?
 can i discuss my project wiht you
 now i discuss the my project(i,e sample project)
documentation
  i created a table in demo gadfly database (table
name is login table  and field is userid and pass)
  i have three page  and all three pages under the
MakSampleProject folder
 (1)index.html page ,it contains username field and
pass word field  and 'submit' and 'new user register'
button(i.e., two field and two button)
 if i am new user and i press the 'new user register'
button,registration page will display
 (2)registerpage.html page contains three field (i.e
username,password and confirmation) and submit button
 when you click the submit button ,at that time the
3rd page is call
 (3)fieldcheck.html page,this page contains both
validation code and insert value part code
 i have code to validate three field is not empty ,if
any one field is empty i will through the exception. 
if three field values are correct i go to write the
values in login table
 validation part is
 
 
 
 
 
 
 if any one field is empty ,just i call the
registerpage by using form acion method
 "http://localhost:8080/makhomepage/registerpage
 if all the field is not empty just i print the page
 "thnaks for registeration"
 and i goto insert the value to login table(i have no
idea about this part)
 ?there is a problem in that area i dodn't no idea
about how can i write the values in  login table
 pls help me how can i connect the database  and get
the value and give the sample

if In java 
 just write the follwing code
 Class.forName("sun.jdbc.odbc.JdbcOdbcDriver");
 Connection con=DriverManager("Jdbc:Odbc:login","","")
 Statement stmt=con.createStatement();
 ResultSet rs= stmt.execute("slect * from login");
 ResultSetMetaData rsmd= rs.getMetaData();
 while(rs.nex())
 {
 }
 
 pls give the python sample its help for me
 
 if i am using sqlserver database, for the all above
prodecure,how can i do in sqlserver?
 
 i think,in india it is the first time to use the zope
server technology,in chennai i am first man to use the
server

waiting for reply???
bye
MAK
Precious Microtech Private Limited
Chennai-34
Phone -8210977/6
www.preciousmicrotech.com


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Re: [Zope] Adding users via external method

2000-06-27 Thread ethan mindlace fremen

Timothy Grant wrote:

> I have come upon some situations where I also need to add Roles. I can find
> nothing archived nor on the Zope site about programmatically adding Roles.
> Can anyone assist me?

hmm.  I don't know how you're adding users without indicating their
roles.

I do this:

  

where REQUEST includes these variables:

name
password
confirm
roles

And roles is a list.

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Re: [Zope] "http://www.zope.org": HORRIBLE HTML

2000-07-07 Thread ethan mindlace fremen

Svante Kleist wrote:
> 
> Has anybody tried to validate the Zope homepage? Like so:
[...]
> Is Zope buggy, producing HTML like this?

Right now, Zope.org tries to balance between IE users, NS 4.x users, and
emacs/text mode users.

Around the same time that NS 6 comes out, zope.org will be transitioning
to a fully w3c standard compliant site.  This will break NS 4, and that
is what's kept us doing patently wrong things.

This isn't a failing of Zope: the software itself can serve arbitrary
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Re: [Zope] Document Title

2000-07-10 Thread ethan mindlace fremen

Terry Babbey wrote:
> 
> I am trying to get a document title to print out and am having
> problems.
> 
> As part of my web page I would like to display the title of a
> document, and the document id is stored in a variable. But Zope is
> interpretting the information in the variable as a string and not as a
> document id.

I guess I'm confused.  You don't use id for the ID?  As in,  doesn't work properly?

There's also , ,  ...

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Re: [Zope] product import error - please help

2000-07-10 Thread ethan mindlace fremen

Eagan hills wrote:
> 
> All,
> 
> I am working on a new installation of Zope under Red Hat 6.3. When trying to
> import any product (Portal Toolkit, Squishdot, KM news etc.), I get an
> error - internal server error (500). It seems as if the page isnt there.
> There is an import directory under the Zope root directory.
> 
> Any ideas or suggestions will be greatly appreciated.

You need to be in Control_Panel/Products when you import products.  Does
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Re: [Zope] C:\Program Files\WebSite>"C:\Program Files\WebSite\bin\python.exe""C:\Program F"C:\Program F

2000-07-10 Thread ethan mindlace fremen

Jonathan DESP wrote:

It sounds like your database is corrupted.  I would recommend
downloading zope 2.2 and using fsrecover.py to recover your data.fs.

> I'm getting a problem, I don't understand what it is, my friend and me
> didnot find the problem too.

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Re: [Zope] Re: Document Title

2000-07-12 Thread ethan mindlace fremen

Terry Babbey wrote:
> 
> Here is my next problem ... I have a variable called ProgCode. That is where I
> store the College Program I want to look up information on (eg. T043). Now all
> the dtml documents associated with program T043 have T043 as the base of their
> name and then the names have extra characters (eg. T043PIC is the picture
> associated with the T043 program). So what I want to do is append the letters
> PIC to the variable ProgCode and then test to see if the file exists.
> Here is one thought I have had so far but it does not work.

Assuming that the picture is an image:
you have to put it in a dtml-var:

> 
  
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Re: [Zope] hard dtml syntax problem

2000-07-12 Thread ethan mindlace fremen

Jerome Alet wrote:
> 
> Hi want to call ZopeFind to find all folders in the current folder which
> doesn't have got any subfolder.
> 
> the following query works but returns all folders, even those which have
> got subfolders:
> 
> 
> 
> ...
> 

Couldn't you just do a nested dtml-in?  It's kind of hacky, but...


 
 
   has no folders.
 


you may or may not have to change the dtml-var statement to get the
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Re: [Zope] Current Year

2000-07-12 Thread ethan mindlace fremen

Aaron Williamson wrote:
> 
> I hate to sound like such a newbie, but I am having the darndest time
> trying to figure out how to get the current year.  I know that the
> current time is ZopeTime, but I have tried every way I can think of to
> get the year() function to work with it, and at last have given up.  The
> documentation I have found is vague at best (imagine).  Please help.

The zope quick reference is my source for answers about time
formatting.  I also hear that DateTime.py has excellent in-source
documentaton.

Unlike steve, I would do 

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Re: [Zope] simple instructions for site search

2000-07-12 Thread ethan mindlace fremen

Sean Kelley wrote:
> 
> I am a new Zope user- Can anyone tell me if there is documented
> anywhere, simple instructions for creating a full site search by
> keyword?  I have a simple site with squishdot and zope chat.
> Thanks

You want the ZCatalog Howto:

http://www.zope.org/Documentation/How-To/ZCatalogTutorial
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Re: [Zope] update Zope

2000-07-13 Thread ethan mindlace fremen

Mario Premke wrote:
> 
> I want to update from Zope 2.1.6 to 2.2.0.
> Is there a way to copy my contents to the
> new version or do I have to start from the
> beginning ?
> Thanks
> Mario

two ways:

1. Copy your Data.fs from the var directory of the old zope into the new
one.  Remember that you need to have the right products installed.

2. Switch to INSTANCE_HOME usage, as explicated by Evan:

http://www.zope.org/Members/4am/instancehome

I add the steps of symlinking the software folder to something like
zope_soft. This has the advantage that any further releases of zope, to
upgrade you simply unpack and compile zope, then link it's folder to
zope_soft, restart zope, and (more-or-less) viola!  things work.

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Re: [Zope] Blank Date Field?

2000-07-13 Thread ethan mindlace fremen

"James W. Howe" wrote:
> 
> Is there some easy way to allow for the storage and display of an
> empty/blank date field?  It seems that you are unable to enter a blank
> value if you defined a property field as storing a date value.  I want to
> be able to store dates in my object, but the date value is optional.

This is fixed in 2.2, which should be released mere days from now.

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[Zope] zope.org going down for upgrade

2000-07-13 Thread ethan mindlace fremen

Zopatistas:

zope.org will be going down the morning of Friday the 14th during the
transition to zope 2.2.  It should be no more than a 15 minute downtime.

In the mean time, if you want to hit http://www.zope.org:666/ to see if
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[Zope] zope.org going down now

2000-07-14 Thread ethan mindlace fremen

zope.org is going down now for the upgrade.

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[Zope] zope.org updated

2000-07-14 Thread ethan mindlace fremen

zope.org is now running the release version of zope (2.2), which should
be availiable for download shortly.

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Re: [Zope] Linux user group

2000-07-14 Thread ethan mindlace fremen

CURTIS David wrote:
> 
> Greetings,
> 
> I am a member of the a Linux users group and I have been asked to do a demo on ZOPE 
>because I am using it and many members are curious. I consider myself a ZOPE newbie, 
>because use I use ZOPE  to access some really  simple databases.  I have NOT done any 
>special python programming (but not for lack of trying) but would like some input on 
>what I should say about ZOPE.  1) Is there a ZOPE demo for that runs on a CDROM?

I think you're looking for the "Zope on CDROM howto":

http://www.zope.org/Members/jens/news/zope_on_cdrom

> 2) What is the best way to present ZOPE?

Hm.  In a bed of lettuce with an olive on top?
(sorry)

the advantages I noticed when first using zope:

Reduction of redundancy through aquisition (increases maintainability,
etc)
Easy dynamically generated pages (with or without RDB access)
Through the web management.

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[Zope] zope.org going down

2000-07-17 Thread ethan mindlace fremen

for about 35 sec :)

because I forgot a very important part :P

Thanks for your patience,
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Re: [Zope] Zope Knowledge Base on www.faqts.com

2000-07-17 Thread ethan mindlace fremen

Fiona Czuczman wrote:
> 
> Hi All,
> 
> It seems the consensus is that my working on a zope knowledge base would
> be appreciated so I'll take up the challenge 
> 
> The issue of where to enter the questions was a tough one...
> zdp.zope.org or zope.faqts.com (FAQTs still need to set this up,
> currently http://www.faqts.com/knowledge-base/index.phtml/fid/295/lang/
> though there's not much there yet :)
> 
> I decided to go with FAQTs for a couple of reasons.
> 
> - the admin behind the site, for sending out summaries etc, is great.
> - I'll be working off the one site for python and zope.
> 
> Basically it just makes the job easier for me.

Hi, fiona.  Thanks for doing this.  Email me once you're up and running
so I can link to it from zope.org.
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Re: [Zope] Re: Zope 2.2.0 Startup

2000-07-17 Thread ethan mindlace fremen

Chris Withers wrote:
> 
> Indra Gunawan wrote:
> > I've just install Zope 2.2.0 from 2.1.6 but when I run the start.bat it
> > seems the startup process took a very2 long time compared to the usual, is
> > it normal?

Did you just copy the Data.fs ? If so, your old zope had a Data.fs.index
that greatly speeds the startup of zope.  It is regenerated if zope
starts & stops safely, so probably it will start much faster next time.
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[Zope] product docs Re: [Zope] Zope docs ??

2000-07-17 Thread ethan mindlace fremen

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> Anynoe recommend any documentation on Zope; esp. extending it with Python
> methods; besides the ZOpe.org stuff?

Beehive has a zclasses tutorial availiable for DM25 at
http://www.beehive.de . I would recommend zclasses over "pure python"
products.

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Re: [Zope] Zboard 0.1 released

2000-07-17 Thread ethan mindlace fremen

rainlood wrote:
> 
> Hello.
> I want to announce this.
> 
> http://www.zope.org/Members/rainlood/Zboard/

Rainlood, thank you for making a product for Zope!

It helps your product get more widespread use when you add a description
to the product.  There is also an informative document on how to do
context sensitive help in your product:

http://www.zope.org/Wikis/Docs/HelpTopicUsage

Also, when your product has these features, the Catalog Help tells you
how to make it appear in the Product's Page:

http://www.zope.org/Members/CatalogHelp
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Re: [Zope] ZEO and a front end...

2000-07-17 Thread ethan mindlace fremen

Curtis Maloney wrote:
> Yes, however his point is that by having each Zope instance 'predominantly'
> serving one portion of the site, its cache will contain more objects
> relevant, and thus be just that little bit faster.
> 
> Personally, I find this such a simple idea that it MUST be good. (o8
> So much so, in fact, that I've decided to have a crack at writing just such a
> redirector.  I feel the Zope world (and others, most likely) could benefit
> from a 'preferential' redirector.

The way I would do this is have 

section1.contrived-example.com
section2.contrived-example.com
section3.contrived-example.com

with siteAccess, and then each zope would serve it according to it's IP
(though each "could" serve each site).  Then you can use whatever IP/DNS
load balancing tool your heart desires.

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Re: [Zope] Error loggin in as acl user

2000-07-17 Thread ethan mindlace fremen

vaibhav wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I added an acl user as a manager. But it does not accept the password
> when I log in.

Ensure that there is no domain name listed. Set the password to
something short like help . If that doesn't work, set the password to
nothing, and then you should be able to get in without authenticating
(temporary fix!).

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Re: [Zope] Urgent Problem -> CMG - script is not working

2000-07-17 Thread ethan mindlace fremen

Sven Hohage wrote:
> 
> Hallo,
> I've got an urgent problem.
> I' like to add websites by using forms which decide about the new
> content( upload a logo, new text,etc.).
> I know that's described in the CMG but the builder-script is not
> working. "Invalid syntax".

It sounds like you're not generating proper DTML.
If you can give the DTML file and the traceback of the error, the
problem can be diagnosed further.

> The most import thing is to be able to clone an object and then to
> change the propertys.

I use





to do this, where the required values are present in REQUEST.  More
information about manage_clone and manage_changeProperties is availiable
at the Zope Quick Reference: http://www.zope.org/Members/ZQR/

> Please mail me a version that's working because tomorrow I have to
> show it to my boss.

Digital Creation's consulting rates are availiable at:
http://www.digicool.com/Solutions/

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Re: [Zope] Importing exchange rates

2000-07-17 Thread ethan mindlace fremen

Adrian Madrid wrote:
> 
> I need to obtain the current exchange rates for the yen, mark, etc. with
> at least once a day, preferrably every other 15". Is there an easy way
> to do this in Zope?

It depends on where the exchange rates are.  

If you get them from a database, you can make zope display the current
rates. 

If you get them from a web page, you can use the client feature of zope
to go snarf the web page and then extract what you need (hope you have
permission :)

If some other mechanism can write them to a file, you can suck them up
with an external method whenever someone asks for it.

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Re: [Zope] help

2000-07-17 Thread ethan mindlace fremen

danchik wrote:
> 
> how can I fix this??

>   
>   
> 

The wrapping makes it very hard to read. I don't believe you need to do
this.

With these changes:

>  the Some_header dtml file has the following
> lines-
> 

Re: [Zope] Writing a Zope Help System

2000-07-17 Thread ethan mindlace fremen

"J. Atwood" wrote:
> 
> Has anyone posted a help on writing Zope help into your product for 2.2?

Docs Wiki: http://www.zope.org/Wikis/Docs/HelpTopicUsage

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