Re: [Zope-CMF] Re: CMF roadmap update

2006-04-27 Thread Chris Withers
Tres Seaver wrote: Customization is hard: without TTW modules we *can't* do customization of arbitrary view logic. What's the blocker on this? Same thing that's blocking TTW schemas? cheers, Chris -- Simplistix - Content Management, Zope Python Consulting -

[Zope-CMF] Re: CMF roadmap update

2006-04-26 Thread yuppie
Tres Seaver wrote: Paul Winkler wrote: I saw Philip W. do a working prototype of this at the PyCon Dallas sprints. I don't know if anything happened with this after PyCon, and it would need at least some UI work. If the UI is to integrate with the CMF skins tool, I suspect there will need

Re: [Zope-CMF] Re: CMF roadmap update

2006-04-26 Thread Stefan H . Holek
I am using it rather heavily. The overengineery impression comes from the fact that it is intended to be highly pluggable (CMF-style, i.e. by replacing tools). For example I always replace the generator with something more robust than a simple counter. Using it is straight forward, you

[Zope-CMF] Re: CMF roadmap update

2006-04-26 Thread Tres Seaver
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 yuppie wrote: Tres Seaver wrote: Paul Winkler wrote: I saw Philip W. do a working prototype of this at the PyCon Dallas sprints. I don't know if anything happened with this after PyCon, and it would need at least some UI work. If the UI is

Re: [Zope-CMF] Re: CMF roadmap update

2006-04-25 Thread Chris Withers
Jens Vagelpohl wrote: I sent an email about this a couple days ago. Basically, I'm down to one failing unit test in CMFUid and have discovered that CMFUid is basically broken in 2.0/trunk. I also sent an email on this issue to the list, hoping that the developers who wrote CMFUid and lobbied

Re: [Zope-CMF] Re: CMF roadmap update

2006-04-25 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 25 Apr 2006, at 15:08, Chris Withers wrote: Jens Vagelpohl wrote: I sent an email about this a couple days ago. Basically, I'm down to one failing unit test in CMFUid and have discovered that CMFUid is basically broken in 2.0/trunk. I also

[Zope-CMF] Re: CMF roadmap update

2006-04-25 Thread Florent Guillaume
Jens Vagelpohl wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 25 Apr 2006, at 15:08, Chris Withers wrote: Jens Vagelpohl wrote: I sent an email about this a couple days ago. Basically, I'm down to one failing unit test in CMFUid and have discovered that CMFUid is basically broken

Re: [Zope-CMF] Re: CMF roadmap update

2006-04-25 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 25 Apr 2006, at 15:51, Florent Guillaume wrote: How would people feel about deprecating it for 2.1 and removing it in 2.3 if no-one steps up who wants it? Well, I have my own opinion about that, but the course of action depends mostly on

Re: [Zope-CMF] Re: CMF roadmap update

2006-04-25 Thread David Pratt
Hi Jens. Z3 has it own uid facilities. I guess folks could pick this up through five could they not? Its all moving in that direction in any case. Regards David Jens Vagelpohl wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 25 Apr 2006, at 15:51, Florent Guillaume wrote: How would

Re: [Zope-CMF] Re: CMF roadmap update

2006-04-25 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 25 Apr 2006, at 16:33, David Pratt wrote: added text at bottom Jens Vagelpohl wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 25 Apr 2006, at 15:51, Florent Guillaume wrote: How would people feel about deprecating it for 2.1 and

[Zope-CMF] Re: CMF roadmap update

2006-04-25 Thread Tres Seaver
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Florent Guillaume wrote: Jens Vagelpohl wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 25 Apr 2006, at 15:08, Chris Withers wrote: Jens Vagelpohl wrote: I sent an email about this a couple days ago. Basically, I'm down to one

Re: [Zope-CMF] Re: CMF roadmap update

2006-04-25 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 25 Apr 2006, at 17:49, Tres Seaver wrote: I believe the work which Philipp and I did at PyCon will land for Zope 2.10 / Five 1.4. Until then, we don't have any story for view customization: sites which depend on such customization will need to

[Zope-CMF] Re: CMF roadmap update

2006-04-25 Thread Tres Seaver
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 yuppie wrote: Hi Jens! Jens Vagelpohl wrote: CMF 2.0.0 is now out the door and I have made some updates to the roadmap document. Please take a look and give me some feedback on the dates (well, the only dates we have set are the dates for

[Zope-CMF] Re: CMF roadmap update

2006-04-24 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Adding missing pieces to the Zope 3 integration puzzle which could not make it into the 2.0 release for time reasons will be the main objective for CMF 2.1. At this point the following items are planned to land in CMF 2.1: * Local skin

Re: [Zope-CMF] Re: CMF roadmap update

2006-04-24 Thread Paul Winkler
On Mon, Apr 24, 2006 at 10:13:45PM +0100, Jens Vagelpohl wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Adding missing pieces to the Zope 3 integration puzzle which could not make it into the 2.0 release for time reasons will be the main objective for CMF 2.1. At this point the

Re: [Zope-CMF] Re: CMF roadmap update

2006-04-24 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 24 Apr 2006, at 22:13, Jens Vagelpohl wrote: * Use of Zope 3-style container events throughout, removal of all manage_* methods. Is this already implemented on the tseaver-catalog_events branch or is more work necessary than merging

[Zope-CMF] Re: CMF roadmap update

2006-04-16 Thread Martin Aspeli
Hi Jens, CMF 2.0.0 is now out the door and I have made some updates to the roadmap document. Please take a look and give me some feedback on the dates (well, the only dates we have set are the dates for CMF 2.1) and the description of 2.1:

[Zope-CMF] Re: CMF roadmap

2006-02-16 Thread Florent Guillaume
Jens Vagelpohl wrote: There's one specific item that I couldn't find enough information on to make a comment, which is events support. Florent, what is the status on the trunk and the 1.6 branch? In 1.6 and 2.0 events are not used beyond what Zope has. So events are not used to trigger

[Zope-CMF] Re: CMF roadmap

2006-02-15 Thread Florent Guillaume
Jens Vagelpohl wrote: Hi all, I finally sat down and put up a CMF roadmap page. It is pretty condensed right now, and I'm asking for feedback: http://www.zope.org/Products/CMF/docs/roadmap There's one specific item that I couldn't find enough information on to make a comment, which is

Re: [Zope-CMF] Re: CMF roadmap

2006-02-15 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
On 15 Feb 2006, at 14:12, Florent Guillaume wrote: Jens Vagelpohl wrote: There's one specific item that I couldn't find enough information on to make a comment, which is events support. Florent, what is the status on the trunk and the 1.6 branch? In 1.6 and 2.0 events are not used beyond

[Zope-CMF] Re: CMF roadmap

2006-02-15 Thread Tres Seaver
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jens Vagelpohl wrote: On 15 Feb 2006, at 23:53, Martin Aspeli wrote: There's one specific item that I couldn't find enough information on to make a comment, which is events support. Florent, what is the status on the trunk and the 1.6

[Zope-CMF] Re: CMF roadmap

2006-02-12 Thread yuppie
Hi Jens! Jens Vagelpohl wrote: I finally sat down and put up a CMF roadmap page. It is pretty condensed right now, and I'm asking for feedback: http://www.zope.org/Products/CMF/docs/roadmap Great! I have one comment: While we first worked on CMF 2.0 and later backported some stuff to CMF

[Zope-CMF] Re: CMF roadmap

2006-02-12 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
On 12 Feb 2006, at 15:38, yuppie wrote: I have one comment: While we first worked on CMF 2.0 and later backported some stuff to CMF 1.6 the lists of new features are a bit confusing now. I think for CMF 2.0 we should only list changes compared to CMF 1.6. (The CHANGES.txt files are also

[Zope-CMF] Re: CMF roadmap

2006-02-12 Thread yuppie
Hi Jens! Jens Vagelpohl wrote: On 12 Feb 2006, at 15:38, yuppie wrote: I have one comment: While we first worked on CMF 2.0 and later backported some stuff to CMF 1.6 the lists of new features are a bit confusing now. I think for CMF 2.0 we should only list changes compared to CMF 1.6.