[Zope-dev] Zope2 debug-mode vs ZCML dev-mode, ZCML conditionals

2009-09-15 Thread Thomas Lotze
I asked this a month ago without getting any responses, so I'll give it one more try: We recently ran into an issue with debug/development mode when making z3c.hashedresource work with Zope2: The package implements different behaviour depending on whether the dev-mode feature is enabled in the

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope2 debug-mode vs ZCML dev-mode, ZCML conditionals

2009-09-15 Thread Andreas Jung
On 15.09.09 08:00, Thomas Lotze wrote: I asked this a month ago without getting any responses, so I'll give it one more try: We recently ran into an issue with debug/development mode when making z3c.hashedresource work with Zope2: The package implements different behaviour depending on

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope2 debug-mode vs ZCML dev-mode, ZCML conditionals

2009-09-15 Thread Thomas Lotze
Andreas Jung wrote: On 15.09.09 08:00, Thomas Lotze wrote: - Is Zope2 debug mode semantically equivalent to ZCML dev-mode, i.e. should the two be linked to each other in the first place? What is the ZCML dev-mode? It's a so-called ZCML feature that can be used with ZCML conditionals.

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope2 debug-mode vs ZCML dev-mode, ZCML conditionals

2009-09-15 Thread Andreas Jung
On 15.09.09 08:27, Thomas Lotze wrote: Andreas Jung wrote: On 15.09.09 08:00, Thomas Lotze wrote: - Is Zope2 debug mode semantically equivalent to ZCML dev-mode, i.e. should the two be linked to each other in the first place? What is the ZCML dev-mode? It's a

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope2 debug-mode vs ZCML dev-mode, ZCML conditionals

2009-09-15 Thread Thomas Lotze
Andreas Jung wrote: I can not remember having seen any support this feature. If you need it, please add it to the Zope 2 trunk I'll see about it ASAP. (however too late for the Zope 2.12 release, sorry :-)) That's fine. -- Thomas ___ Zope-Dev

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope2 debug-mode vs ZCML dev-mode, ZCML conditionals

2009-09-15 Thread Hanno Schlichting
On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 8:00 AM, Thomas Lotze t...@gocept.com wrote: - Is Zope2 debug mode semantically equivalent to ZCML dev-mode, i.e.  should the two be linked to each other in the first place? I don't know what kind of functionality is usually switched on by the zcml dev-mode. Are there

[Zope-dev] structuring the zopetoolkit SVN layout/web presence

2009-09-15 Thread Martijn Faassen
Hey, I think it would be good if we could (eventually) separate the Zope Toolkit development documentation (what's published by docs.zope.org/zopetoolkit now) from the Zope Toolkit release documentation. Zope Toolkit dev documentation: * aimed at people who need to *manage* the development of

Re: [Zope-dev] structuring the zopetoolkit SVN layout/web presence

2009-09-15 Thread Jim Fulton
+1 Jim On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 3:57 AM, Martijn Faassen faas...@startifact.com wrote: Hey, I think it would be good if we could (eventually) separate the Zope Toolkit development documentation (what's published by docs.zope.org/zopetoolkit now) from the Zope Toolkit release documentation.

Re: [Zope-dev] Subversion externals versus mirroring

2009-09-15 Thread Reinout van Rees
On 2009-09-11, Sebastien Douche sdou...@gmail.com wrote: Caution with the actual workflow, 2 differences between SVN and Hg : - you cannot check out partial repository - external does not exist Missing externals has been a pain point for me. There are however buildout recipes that can pull

Re: [Zope-dev] official release policy ZTK is still not changed

2009-09-15 Thread Reinout van Rees
On 2009-09-11, Benji York be...@zope.com wrote: On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 10:41 AM, Jim Fulton j...@zope.com wrote: On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 10:11 AM, Martijn Faassen faas...@startifact.com wrote: * I (and others) use tools to do releases (zest.releaser in my case). These tools are based on this

Re: [Zope-dev] Subversion externals versus mirroring

2009-09-15 Thread Andreas Jung
On 14.09.09 20:02, Gary Poster wrote: On Sep 11, 2009, at 9:34 AM, Chris Withers wrote: Martijn Faassen wrote: Christian Theune wrote: [snip] Same here. We also ended up in many deadlock situations having to sacrifice chickens for SVN to resume operations. That's why we

Re: [Zope-dev] Subversion externals versus mirroring

2009-09-15 Thread Wichert Akkerman
On 9/15/09 10:33 , Reinout van Rees wrote: On 2009-09-11, Sebastien Douchesdou...@gmail.com wrote: Caution with the actual workflow, 2 differences between SVN and Hg : - you cannot check out partial repository - external does not exist Missing externals has been a pain point for me.

Re: [Zope-dev] official release policy ZTK is still not changed

2009-09-15 Thread Reinout van Rees
On 2009-09-11, Martijn Faassen faas...@startifact.com wrote: Jim Fulton wrote: but if it is, I propose to using 0 instead of the dev of the next version. Where I've used '0', I've found it to be less error prone. Ir also requires less effort because it means you never have to edit the

Re: [Zope-dev] where is zc.zservertracelog 1.2.0?

2009-09-15 Thread Reinout van Rees
On 2009-09-11, Gary Poster gary.pos...@gmail.com wrote: Hi. pypi advertises http://pypi.python.org/pypi/zc.zservertracelog/1.2.0 but there is no download to be found! :-) Could whoever made the release add the download? Related to the recent 1.2dev or 0 discussion where zest.releaser

[Zope-dev] Open issues ported to Launchpad blueprints

2009-09-15 Thread Christian Theune
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, in the face of organizing the ZTK 1.0 release Hanno and I ported the open issues as blueprints to Launchpad (and added some more suggestions along the way). You can see them here: https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/zopetoolkit So, new

Re: [Zope-dev] Subversion externals versus mirroring

2009-09-15 Thread Gary Poster
On Sep 15, 2009, at 4:56 AM, Wichert Akkerman wrote: In my experience distributed SCMs add bottlenecks to development that we currently do not have in the Zope community: with both our shared svn repository and distributed SCMs everyone can branch everything, but with distributed SCMs

Re: [Zope-dev] Subversion externals versus mirroring

2009-09-15 Thread Wichert Akkerman
On 9/15/09 13:56 , Gary Poster wrote: On Sep 15, 2009, at 4:56 AM, Wichert Akkerman wrote: In my experience distributed SCMs add bottlenecks to development that we currently do not have in the Zope community: with both our shared svn repository and distributed SCMs everyone can branch

[Zope-dev] Zope Tests: 8 OK

2009-09-15 Thread Zope Tests Summarizer
Summary of messages to the zope-tests list. Period Mon Sep 14 12:00:00 2009 UTC to Tue Sep 15 12:00:00 2009 UTC. There were 8 messages: 8 from Zope Tests. Tests passed OK --- Subject: OK : Zope-2.10 Python-2.4.6 : Linux From: Zope Tests Date: Mon Sep 14 20:43:42 EDT 2009 URL:

Re: [Zope-dev] Subversion externals versus mirroring

2009-09-15 Thread Gary Poster
On Sep 15, 2009, at 7:59 AM, Wichert Akkerman wrote: On 9/15/09 13:56 , Gary Poster wrote: 2) Our current arrangement, as well as many others, can be accomplished with a DVCS. Launchpad + Bzr definitely support this. You would have a Launchpad team of committers, with managed

Re: [Zope-dev] official release policy ZTK is still not changed

2009-09-15 Thread Stephan Richter
On Tuesday 15 September 2009, Reinout van Rees wrote: On 2009-09-11, Martijn Faassen faas...@startifact.com wrote: Jim Fulton wrote: but if it is, I propose to using 0 instead of the dev of the next version. Where I've used '0', I've found it to be less error prone. Ir also requires

Re: [Zope-dev] Subversion externals versus mirroring

2009-09-15 Thread Paul Winkler
On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 07:56:42AM -0400, Gary Poster wrote: Generally, I'd be surprised to learn that Bzr/Launchpad were alone in supporting this, but they are the only ones I can vouch for. For instance, I'm almost positive that github also allows you to have multiple committers to a

Re: [Zope-dev] Update on ztk kgs: Python 2.6 issues

2009-09-15 Thread Jim Fulton
On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 12:08 PM, Patrick Gerken do3cc...@googlemail.com wrote: Hi, I have removed that profiler for python2.6 My understanding of the python api is, that we were using an undocumented feature to merge two hotshot profiler results. Since nobody maintains hotshot any longer,

Re: [Zope-dev] official release policy ZTK is still not changed

2009-09-15 Thread Tres Seaver
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Stephan Richter wrote: On Tuesday 15 September 2009, Reinout van Rees wrote: On 2009-09-11, Martijn Faassen faas...@startifact.com wrote: Jim Fulton wrote: but if it is, I propose to using 0 instead of the dev of the next version. Where I've

Re: [Zope-dev] official release policy ZTK is still not changed

2009-09-15 Thread Benji York
On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 4:56 PM, Tres Seaver tsea...@palladion.com wrote: I *like* the property of the 0 strategy that it makes the job of releasing a package a little harder:  releaseing software should be a thoughtful, careful process, not something you do without a bit of hesitation and

[Zope-dev] ZTK test failures - zope.testing

2009-09-15 Thread Hanno Schlichting
Hi from the Grok sprint, Jan-Jaap from thehealthagency and myself spent some time on getting extensive buildbot coverage for the ZTK (and many other Zope things) going. It's all three Python versions (2.4 - 2.6) on all major platforms (Windows, Mac OS, 32-bit Ubuntu + 64-bit Ubuntu). You can see

Re: [Zope-dev] official release policy ZTK is still not changed

2009-09-15 Thread Reinout van Rees
On 2009-09-15, Tres Seaver tsea...@palladion.com wrote: If you are making releases without having the CHANGES.txt open in your browser, then you need to put down the keyboard and back away slowly, so that nobody gets hurt. Reviewing / correcting the changelog (and comparing it with a diff

Re: [Zope-dev] ZTK test failures - zope.testing

2009-09-15 Thread Sidnei da Silva
Hi Hanno, On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 6:42 PM, Hanno Schlichting ha...@hannosch.eu wrote: We are down to zero-build problems for the ZTK and just one test failure. This is in zope.testing in testrunner-layers-buff.txt. That smells like something Gary has touched recently. -- Sidnei

[Zope-dev] Apache rewrite - HTTP_Host redirect issue

2009-09-15 Thread Roger Ineichen
Hi Dan I have an issue with the latest changes in zope.publisher.http.py The redirect method in HTTPResponse http.py line: 880 forces a ValueError. Because the Apache HTTP_HOST and the target_host to not compare. def redirect(self, location, status=None, trusted=False): location =

Re: [Zope-dev] official release policy ZTK is still not changed

2009-09-15 Thread Roger Ineichen
Hi Betreff: Re: [Zope-dev] official release policy ZTK is still not changed -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Stephan Richter wrote: On Tuesday 15 September 2009, Reinout van Rees wrote: On 2009-09-11, Martijn Faassen faas...@startifact.com wrote: Jim Fulton wrote:

Re: [Zope-dev] ZTK test failures - zope.testing

2009-09-15 Thread Gary Poster
On Sep 15, 2009, at 6:33 PM, Sidnei da Silva wrote: Hi Hanno, On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 6:42 PM, Hanno Schlichting ha...@hannosch.eu wrote: We are down to zero-build problems for the ZTK and just one test failure. This is in zope.testing in testrunner-layers-buff.txt. That smells like