Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Future of ZClasses

2006-10-04 Thread Jean-Marc Orliaguet
more stable is the Java API, in Point 2 and 3 of this entry: http://www.z3lab.org/sections/blogs/jean-marc-orliaguet/2006_09_23_times-they-changin But it is not fair to compare the stability of a programming language standard modules API with a application framework api. But maybe I am not good

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: [Zope-dev] Two visions

2006-03-05 Thread Jean-Marc Orliaguet
Jim Fulton wrote: Martijn Faassen wrote: Jim Fulton wrote: [snip] I think that having one name for two radically different, though related, things is very confusing. There are really 2 main technologies that people care about: 1. The Zope app server. This is characterized by things like

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Two visions

2006-02-28 Thread Jean-Marc Orliaguet
Martijn Faassen wrote: Philipp von Weitershausen wrote: [snip] I would vote for spelling out Zed (which would also be a little easier to google but might create trademark problems). The namespace package could either be 'z' or 'zed'. Then again, I really should take Jim's side and stay out

[Zope-dev] traversable methods / docstrings.

2006-01-30 Thread Jean-Marc Orliaguet
Hi! I didn't know that methods needed to have docstrings to be traversable (it took me some time to find out why I was getting Not found errors on some of a tool's methods). Is there any reason to still have such a feature in Zope2.9? or at least maybe there could be a hint in the trace

Re: [Zope-dev] traversable methods / docstrings.

2006-01-30 Thread Jean-Marc Orliaguet
Paul Winkler wrote: On Mon, Jan 30, 2006 at 11:34:17AM +0100, Jean-Marc Orliaguet wrote: Hi! I didn't know that methods needed to have docstrings to be traversable (it took me some time to find out why I was getting Not found errors on some of a tool's methods). Is there any reason

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: traversable methods / docstrings.

2006-01-30 Thread Jean-Marc Orliaguet
Tres Seaver wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jean-Marc Orliaguet wrote: I didn't know that methods needed to have docstrings to be traversable (it took me some time to find out why I was getting Not found errors on some of a tool's methods). Is there any reason

[Zope-dev] Re: ConflictError's worthwhile to note?

2005-12-06 Thread Jean-Marc Orliaguet
Dieter Maurer wrote: Jean-Marc Orliaguet wrote at 2005-12-4 22:28 +0100: ... In the log flle I'd like to be informed about events that are unexpected. Conflict errors of this kind occur by design. This argument is not convincing: In a similar way, I could argue that MemoryErrors

Re: [Zope-dev] Please vote about conflict errors logging

2005-12-04 Thread Jean-Marc Orliaguet
Dieter Maurer wrote: Jean-Marc Orliaguet wrote at 2005-12-2 23:57 +0100: ... on what level to report retried ConflictError ... BLATHER (I have never be able to get any meaningful information from them, except that zope tries several times) That's because the generated messages *were

Re: [Zope-dev] Please vote about conflict errors logging

2005-12-02 Thread Jean-Marc Orliaguet
Florent Guillaume wrote: Please vote for the level at which you want to log retried conflict errors. These are the ConflictErrors that aren't returned to the user but automatically retried by the Zope publisher. 1. Do you want these ConflictErrors retried logs to be at level: - INFO -

[Zope-dev] Re: [Zope3-dev] RFC: Reunite Zope 2 and Zope 3 in the source code repository

2005-11-24 Thread Jean-Marc Orliaguet
Martijn Faassen wrote: ... Outside the Zope community Zope 3 doesn't have such a great image indeed. It's either ignored, or it's actively rejected. There is a lot of competition with other frameworks. Zope 3 is currently not doing particularly well in this competition, something we need to

[Zope-dev] Re: [Zope3-dev] RFC: Reunite Zope 2 and Zope 3 in the source code repository

2005-11-24 Thread Jean-Marc Orliaguet
Martijn Faassen wrote: Jean-Marc Orliaguet wrote: [snip] It is a bit like this: the zope2 community wants the zope3 technology and zope3 wants the zope2 community. I like this analysis. :) I think the question about the technology should be treated as such on a technical level

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: [Z3lab] Nuxeo supports Zope Corp announces

2005-06-18 Thread Jean-Marc Orliaguet
Philipp von Weitershausen wrote: kit blake wrote: Wow, what a difference two days makes. I heard about the ZF announcement by telephone two mornings ago, and I breathed a huge sigh of relief. It solves a problem we've been worrying about for years. It means we can sit across from a nervous

[Zope-dev] Re: [Z3lab] Nuxeo supports Zope Corp announces

2005-06-17 Thread Jean-Marc Orliaguet
Philipp von Weitershausen wrote: Jean-Marc Orliaguet wrote: This is really great news! I am going to start working at getting Chalmers to be one of the key players in the foundation which would make the foundation even more vendor-neutral. I am confident that this will go through

[Zope-dev] Re: [Z3lab] Nuxeo supports Zope Corp announces

2005-06-17 Thread Jean-Marc Orliaguet
Philipp von Weitershausen wrote: Jean-Marc Orliaguet wrote: Philipp von Weitershausen wrote: Jean-Marc Orliaguet wrote: This is really great news! I am going to start working at getting Chalmers to be one of the key players in the foundation which would make the foundation even more

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: [Z3lab] Nuxeo supports Zope Corp announces

2005-06-17 Thread Jean-Marc Orliaguet
Chris McDonough wrote: On Fri, 2005-06-17 at 07:52 -0400, Stephan Richter wrote: Also, I agree with Andreas and Philipp that developers should be members, not companies. Otherwise, how could I, as an independent developer, have a say? BTW, this is also positive for companies, since they can

[Zope-dev] Re: [Z3lab] Nuxeo supports Zope Corp announces

2005-06-16 Thread Jean-Marc Orliaguet
Eric Barroca wrote: Hello, Following the announces from Zope Corporation yesterday about their willingness to create a Zope Foundation (that would manage independently Zope 2 and Zope 3 projects) and to participate actively in the Z3ECM project, I would like to express briefly Nuxeo's

[Zope-dev] zpt code crashes zope 2.7.3

2004-12-09 Thread Jean-Marc Orliaguet
Hi! the following zpt snippet crashes zope 2.7.3 on Linux (the python process hangs). tal:block define= items python: {u'\xc4': ''}; key python: u'\xc4' content=items/?key / can someone confirm that the bug is present in zope 2.7.4-b1 too before I do a bug report? regards /JM

Re: [Zope-dev] zpt code crashes zope 2.7.3

2004-12-09 Thread Jean-Marc Orliaguet
Jean-Marc Orliaguet wrote: Hi! the following zpt snippet crashes zope 2.7.3 on Linux (the python process hangs). tal:block define= items python: {u'\xc4': ''}; key python: u'\xc4' content=items/?key / can someone confirm that the bug is present in zope 2.7.4-b1 too before I do a bug report

Re: [Zope-dev] zpt code crashes zope 2.7.3

2004-12-09 Thread Jean-Marc Orliaguet
Andreas Jung wrote: --On Donnerstag, 9. Dezember 2004 13:12 Uhr +0100 Jean-Marc Orliaguet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jean-Marc Orliaguet wrote: Hi! the following zpt snippet crashes zope 2.7.3 on Linux (the python process hangs). tal:block define= items python: {u'\xc4': ''}; key python: u'\xc4