[Zope-dev] Open Letter to zope-dev

2001-11-29 Thread Andrew Kenneth Milton
Since I seem to be the cause of all hell breaking loose over here, I thought take the opportunity to respond, since I haven't really been given an opportunity to do that. Since this probably going to be my only ever posting to zope-dev, I don't feel constrained to be brief in exercising my right

Re: [Zope-dev] Searching/Indexing/ZODB/SQL/BerkleyDB

2001-11-29 Thread Chris McDonough
There are also set objects like OOSets and IISets that can be used in intersection and union operations as documented in the BTrees module. - Original Message - From: "Jeffrey P Shell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Matt Hamilton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, Nove

Re: [Zope-dev] Searching/Indexing/ZODB/SQL/BerkleyDB

2001-11-29 Thread Jeffrey P Shell
On Thursday, November 29, 2001, at 04:03 AM, Matt Hamilton wrote: > On Thu, 29 Nov 2001, Chris Withers wrote: > >>> I would rather avoid having to use a relational database unless I >>> have to. >>> Perhaps the index pluggability could be made to support different >>> backends >>> (like FileS

RE: [Zope-dev] Fw: [Exuserfolder-devel] Zope 2.5b1 release

2001-11-29 Thread Brian Lloyd
> I see an intention not to break other user folder products. Given that > the fishbowl proposal in question is supposed to make for a very small > change, any breakage in existing products is a bug in its implementation. I've just checked in changes that I believe address all of the issues (t

Re: [Zope-dev] ZODBC bug

2001-11-29 Thread Matthew T. Kromer
Thanks Mike, I've checked this in to our CVS sources. mike hong wrote: > I found ZODBC bug at max_rows. > > file name: db.py > > line: 230 > > Current version is getting all rows regardless of max_rows. > > Fixed version is getting rows until rows are smaller than max_rows. > > Current version

[Zope-dev] User folders, access rights, security, collector item 47

2001-11-29 Thread Brad Clements
Sorry to post here. I posted last week on the zope list about what appears to be a new/strange security related problem in 2.4.3 I thought it was a problem in LdapUserFolder, but jens spent more time debugging than I did and he feels it's somewhere in the Zope security machinery. http://colle

RE: [Zope-dev] Fw: [Exuserfolder-devel] Zope 2.5b1 release

2001-11-29 Thread Brian Lloyd
> > a) The change to manage_* seems to be completely arbitrary, > since we already > >had _do* methods that meant you didn't have to call manage_users with > >fake submit buttons. So what is the point of having manage_ ? > > > They were added in response to this fishbowl proposal: > > http

Re: [Zope-dev] Searching/Indexing/ZODB/SQL/BerkleyDB

2001-11-29 Thread Chris Withers
Jim Fulton wrote: > > Chris Withers wrote: > > > > Toby Dickenson wrote: > > > > > > FileStorage is 'damn fast', so almost anything is going to be slower. > > > > Indeed, until it runs out of RAM for its indexes ;-) > > I wish you would finish testing the change I made for you. Sorry, to be cle

Re: [Zope-dev] Fw: [Exuserfolder-devel] Zope 2.5b1 release

2001-11-29 Thread Steve Alexander
Steve Alexander wrote: > > In summary: > > I want to make sure that things are no worse in Zope 2.5 final than in > Zope 2.5. Any breakage caused by this API change is a bug, and needs to > be sorted out by Zope 2.5 final. That should have read: I want to make sure that the user managem

Re: [Zope-dev] Fw: [Exuserfolder-devel] Zope 2.5b1 release

2001-11-29 Thread Steve Alexander
A K Milton wrote: > > > a) The change to manage_* seems to be completely arbitrary, since we already >had _do* methods that meant you didn't have to call manage_users with >fake submit buttons. So what is the point of having manage_ ? They were added in response to this fishbowl propos

[Zope-dev] ZODBC bug

2001-11-29 Thread mike hong
I found ZODBC bug at max_rows.   file name: db.py line: 230   Current version is getting all rows regardless of max_rows. Fixed version is getting rows until rows are smaller than max_rows.   Current version: while status==SQL_SUCCESS: .     r.append(rd)     status=SQLFe

Re: [Zope-dev] Searching/Indexing/ZODB/SQL/BerkleyDB

2001-11-29 Thread Jim Fulton
Chris Withers wrote: > > Toby Dickenson wrote: > > > > FileStorage is 'damn fast', so almost anything is going to be slower. > > Indeed, until it runs out of RAM for its indexes ;-) I wish you would finish testing the change I made for you. It should reduce the memory consumption by an order of

Re: [Zope-dev] Fw: [Exuserfolder-devel] Zope 2.5b1 release

2001-11-29 Thread Paul Everitt
Yikes, it was pointed out to me that I typed "amk" instead of "akm". Though I knew it was Andrew Milton and not Andrew Kuchling, I mixed up the letters. (In fact, as I was typing it, I was thinking "wow, that looks like Andrew Kuchling's monogram.") --Paul Paul Everitt wrote: > > Whew, th

Re: [Zope-dev] Searching/Indexing/ZODB/SQL/BerkleyDB

2001-11-29 Thread Matt Hamilton
On Thu, 29 Nov 2001, Chris Withers wrote: > > I would rather avoid having to use a relational database unless I have to. > > Perhaps the index pluggability could be made to support different backends > > (like FileStorage et al does). > > Yeah, unfortunately, the difficult bit is combining querie

Re: [Zope-dev] Fw: [Exuserfolder-devel] Zope 2.5b1 release

2001-11-29 Thread Paul Everitt
Whew, that email (and the preceding one in the thread) is quite a whopper. In substance, amk raises some pretty serious issues that we need to come to grips with very quickly. I don't have enough information to respond right now, but trust that we'll get a good response back today. Neo-mode

Re: [Zope-dev] Fw: [Exuserfolder-devel] Zope 2.5b1 release

2001-11-29 Thread Chris Withers
Dario Lopez-Kästen wrote: > > Anyway. In case you were wondering what the previous email meant, there's > the > actual meaning d8) I'm sure Andy's got a point, but we haven't got the context of those points. Is he complaining about the change in UserFolder API in Zope 2.5? cheers, Chris

Re: [Zope-dev] Searching/Indexing/ZODB/SQL/BerkleyDB

2001-11-29 Thread Chris Withers
Casey Duncan wrote: > > I'm not sure I want to store the indexes in the ZODB, just index ZODB data at > a low level. Ah, okay, and yes, in that case, I am in complete agreement ;-) (the level I'm aiming at is just to be able to index python objects, I'll leave plugging that into the ZODB archit

Re: [Zope-dev] Searching/Indexing/ZODB/SQL/BerkleyDB

2001-11-29 Thread Chris Withers
Andreas Jung wrote: > > Storage of indexed data is one aspect but there is also need for components > like > lexers, stemmers, splitters etc. Oracle Intermedia as an example has a very > flexible > architecture to handle these components (for all that Oracle Intermedia > sucks). Hmmm... hopefull

Re: [Zope-dev] Catalog improvements

2001-11-29 Thread Chris Withers
Andreas Jung wrote: > > I think the software "MG" from the book "Managing Gigabytes" is GPLed and > currently > released as mg-1.21. Walking through the TOC of the book, it seems to be a > very detailed > sources about text processing and gives very much informations about > different indexes typ

Re: [Zope-dev] Searching/Indexing/ZODB/SQL/BerkleyDB

2001-11-29 Thread Chris Withers
"Barry A. Warsaw" wrote: > > than the factor of 100 your numbers showed for you data! I would not > make the blanket assertion that Berkeley storage is 100 times slower > than FileStorage. Sorry, let me clarify as well, I only meant in the context of searching and indexing... > Let me just rei

[Zope-dev] Fw: [Exuserfolder-devel] Zope 2.5b1 release

2001-11-29 Thread Dario Lopez-Kästen
I thought this might be intresting for discussion on zope-dev as well... /dario - Original Message - From: "Andrew Kenneth Milton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Andrew Kenneth Milton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2001 8:45 AM Subject: Re: [Exuserfol