[Zope-dev] class methods in Persistent objects

2004-04-16 Thread Syver Enstad
Is it possible to have class methods on ZODB Persistent objects? I am using 3.2 so that means I am using ExtensionClass. I guess that moving to 3.3 would mean being able to use class methods? What is the expected time that the 3.3 release will be ready for production use?

Re: [Zope3-dev], [Zope-dev] Import checking code

2004-04-16 Thread Martijn Faassen
Fred Drake wrote: On Thursday 15 April 2004 13:22, Martijn Faassen wrote: If somebody lets me know which API they want implemented for retrieving imports (and use of imports) I could do this lifting work myself. I'm not sure simply re-implementing one of the finddeps.py internal interfaces is

[Zope-dev] Re: class methods in Persistent objects

2004-04-16 Thread Christian Heimes
Syver Enstad wrote: Is it possible to have class methods on ZODB Persistent objects? I am using 3.2 so that means I am using ExtensionClass. I guess that moving to 3.3 would mean being able to use class methods? What is the expected time that the 3.3 release will be ready for production use? I

[Zope-dev] Re: Zope + Ape + Subversion (was: RE: Using a truely revis ion based storage for Zope ?)

2004-04-16 Thread Casey Duncan
On Thu, 15 Apr 2004 20:40:09 -0400 (EDT) Shane Hathaway [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 14 Apr 2004, Kapil Thangavelu wrote: although i wonder if there is some hand waving in progress here that i can't see. i guess my semantic notion of versions has been that of long lived transactions,

Re: [Zope3-dev], [Zope-dev] Import checking code

2004-04-16 Thread Fred Drake
On Friday 16 April 2004 06:15 am, Martijn Faassen wrote: I'll try to find some time to take a look at it. Dependency checking is sort of a natural thing to use importchecker stuff for, but importchecker itself may need some refactoring. :) Actually, the confusion I was referring to was in

[Zope-dev] Proposal: Rename zope package

2004-04-16 Thread Jim Fulton
Based on recent discussions, I've created a proposal: http://dev.zope.org/Zope3/RenameTheZopePackage to rename the zope package to z. Unless there are strong objections, we'll do this after we move the Zope repository head to subversion at the end of the month. Jim -- Jim Fulton

Re: [Zope-dev] Proposal: Rename zope package

2004-04-16 Thread Michael Bernstein
Jim Fulton wrote: Based on recent discussions, I've created a proposal: http://dev.zope.org/Zope3/RenameTheZopePackage to rename the zope package to z. Unless there are strong objections, we'll do this after we move the Zope repository head to subversion at the end of the month. From a

Re: [Zope-dev] Proposal: Rename zope package

2004-04-16 Thread Fred Drake
On Friday 16 April 2004 01:31 pm, Michael Bernstein wrote: From a consistency in nomenclature POV, I find 'z' jars a bit with ZConfig, zdaemon, ZEO, zLog, and ZODB, which one might expect to find nested within 'z' (as 'z.Config' for example). This is admittedly only an issue for the

Re: [Zope-dev] Proposal: Rename zope package

2004-04-16 Thread Shane Hathaway
Michael Bernstein wrote: However, rather than suggest a wholesale moving and renaming of these packages within 'z', I'd like to suggest an alternative short name for the 'zope' package, 'OPE', which avoids this issue: import OPE.interface from OPE.app import zapi from OPE.app.event import

Re: [Zope-dev] Proposal: Rename zope package

2004-04-16 Thread Michael Bernstein
Fred Drake wrote: On Friday 16 April 2004 01:31 pm, Michael Bernstein wrote: From a consistency in nomenclature POV, I find 'z' jars a bit with ZConfig, zdaemon, ZEO, zLog, and ZODB, which one might expect to find nested within 'z' (as 'z.Config' for example). This is admittedly only an

Re: [Zope-dev] Proposal: Rename zope package

2004-04-16 Thread Shane Hathaway
Michael Bernstein wrote: Fred Drake wrote: Hehe. ;-) (I do hope you're joking!) About even considering a 'wholesale moving and renaming' yes, obviously, but as far as suggesting 'OPE' as an alternative to 'z' (insofar as it is still necessary to avoid a name-clash with 'Zope'), no. 'OPE' (as

Re: [Zope-dev] Proposal: Rename zope package

2004-04-16 Thread Fred Drake
On Friday 16 April 2004 03:06 pm, Michael Bernstein wrote: Shouldn't we strive for consistency in nomenclature going forward? Definately. My point was that we don't have anything to base it on, not that we shouldn't be. Zope 3 kindly specifies some guidelines for naming, including module and

Re: [Zope-dev] Proposal: Rename zope package

2004-04-16 Thread Fred Drake
On Friday 16 April 2004 03:24 pm, Shane Hathaway wrote: - Spelling it zOPE to take advantage of a frequent mishap involving the cAPS lOCK key That must be what happened for zLOG, and I declared that dead. I don't think anyone's ready for that for Zope 3 just yet. ;-) -Fred -- Fred L.

Re: [Zope-dev] Proposal: Rename zope package

2004-04-16 Thread Michael Bernstein
Shane Hathaway wrote: Michael Bernstein wrote: Did I miss something? Did I just manage to embarrass myself? Is this a dream where I find I am wearing nothing but underwear in public and then wake up? Well, OPE made me think of: - Opie on The Andy Griffith Show -

[Zope-dev] Re: [patch] More secure cookie crumbler?

2004-04-16 Thread Stuart Bishop
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 13/04/2004, at 3:34 PM, Tres Seaver wrote: I haven't looked at the code. Do you have actual experience using core sessions over ZEO? I pondered that recently for a client, and fell back to using a hacked together version of Anthony Baxter's

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: [patch] More secure cookie crumbler?

2004-04-16 Thread Stuart Bishop
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 13/04/2004, at 4:28 PM, Kapil Thangavelu wrote: fwiw, Simon Eisenmann checked in a SessionStorage product into the collective which does much the same. released under the zpl http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/collective/SessionCrumbler/ Looks

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: [patch] More secure cookie crumbler?

2004-04-16 Thread Stuart Bishop
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 13/04/2004, at 1:40 PM, Shane Hathaway wrote: On 04/12/04 09:04, Chris Withers wrote: For me, that's worth patching for, it's up to you if you want to include it in an offical CookieCrumbler release or not ;-) BTW, I wouldn't mind if you or Stuart

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: [patch] More secure cookie crumbler?

2004-04-16 Thread Shane Hathaway
On Sat, 17 Apr 2004, Stuart Bishop wrote: BTW, I wouldn't mind if you or Stuart took over maintainership of CookieCrumbler after the next release. Then you'd be able to take it any direction you want. I don't believe its model can support well the things you're asking it to do, but