[Zope-dev] Re: Clarification re: Zope X3.1, 2.8 - svn usage

2005-03-31 Thread Wolfgang Langner
Hello, Tres Seaver wrote: When you use 'svn:externals', the referenced package itself is *not* part of the containing checkout; it is managed separately by the svn client (sort of like ESI and page fragments). Yes this is true. But the differences between svn:externals and a copy are not so

[Zope-dev] Re: Clarification re: Zope X3.1, 2.8 - svn usage

2005-03-31 Thread Tres Seaver
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Wolfgang Langner wrote: Hello, Tres Seaver wrote: When you use 'svn:externals', the referenced package itself is *not* part of the containing checkout; it is managed separately by the svn client (sort of like ESI and page fragments). Yes

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Clarification re: Zope X3.1, 2.8

2005-03-31 Thread Martijn Faassen
Tres Seaver wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jim Fulton wrote: Martijn Faassen wrote: [snip] Right, lib/python/zope is actually Zope X3.0.0, and we didn't expect we'd need to *update* Zope X3.0 in order for it to work with Zope 2.8. The new ZODB version is having some

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Clarification re: Zope X3.1, 2.8

2005-03-31 Thread Tres Seaver
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Martijn Faassen wrote: Tres Seaver wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jim Fulton wrote: Martijn Faassen wrote: [snip] Right, lib/python/zope is actually Zope X3.0.0, and we didn't expect we'd need to *update* Zope

[Zope-dev] Re: Clarification re: Zope X3.1, 2.8

2005-03-30 Thread Tres Seaver
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Florian Schulze wrote: On Tue, 29 Mar 2005 18:12:51 -0500, Tim Peters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [Tres] - ZODBGuru uses 'svn rm' to zap the current ZODB on the trunk, replacing it with an 'svn:external' link to your ZODB 3.4 tag; and

[Zope-dev] Re: Clarification re: Zope X3.1, 2.8

2005-03-29 Thread Tim Peters
Before I vanished for PyCon about two weeks ago, I was under the impression that merging Zope/branches/five-integration into Zope/trunk was imminent -- a matter of days, if not hours. Perhaps I was mistaken in that. Regardless, what's the current status of this? Last I saw, Andreas announced a

[Zope-dev] Re: Clarification re: Zope X3.1, 2.8

2005-03-29 Thread Andreas Jung
--On Dienstag, 29. März 2005 14:07 Uhr -0500 Tim Peters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Regardless, what's the current status of this? Last I saw, Andreas announced a plan to release 2.8a2 this coming Friday evening (according to my clock wink), but AFAICT the five-integration branch is still distinct

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Clarification re: Zope X3.1, 2.8

2005-03-29 Thread Tim Peters
[Tres Seaver] ... Most of that work has been done on the trunk. The 'five-integration' branch changes consist largely of: - Setting up an 'svn:external' link to the Zope X3 3.0 repository (which is on a branch, pruned to include only the packages which were actually released with 3.0).

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Clarification re: Zope X3.1, 2.8

2005-03-29 Thread Tim Peters
... [Tres] - Setting up an 'svn:external' link to the Zope X3 3.0 repository (which is on a branch, pruned to include only the packages which were actually released with 3.0). [Tim] Just noting that this may create new but short-lived problems for developers on Windows (can't tell for

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Clarification re: Zope X3.1, 2.8

2005-03-29 Thread Tim Peters
[Tres] ... I'll have to take your word for that; are you saying that 'svn:external' doesn't work by default in the windows SVN clients? Crossed in the mail; no problem here. ... OK, that works for me. AFAIK, the branch should be ready to merge whenever; all the recent work on it has

Re: [Zope-dev] RE: Clarification re: Zope X3.1, 2.8

2005-03-21 Thread Florent Guillaume
Chris McDonough [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Brian Lloyd wrote: A lot of time was spent talking about these (legitimate) concerns - unfortunately it will probably take a little time to distill all of that communication to the community. But let me take a shot ;) There are several

Re: [Zope-dev] RE: Clarification re: Zope X3.1, 2.8

2005-03-20 Thread Lennart Regebro
Chris McDonough wrote: Yup, that makes sense. Are these assumed to also be the folks who will try to make sure that new Z3 releases make it in to Z2 via Five? I guess what I'm driving at is that I'd hate to eventually have a very old version of Z3 sitting inside of Zope 2 due to insufficient

Re: [Zope-dev] RE: Clarification re: Zope X3.1, 2.8

2005-03-19 Thread Martijn Faassen
Chris McDonough wrote: [snip] Please correct me if I'm wrong here but I get the sense that Five is less of a migration path from Z2 to Z3 than a way to integrate Z3 technologies (like views and adapters) into Z2 right now. Obviously allowing Z2 developers to use these things will give them a some

[Zope-dev] RE: Clarification re: Zope X3.1, 2.8

2005-03-18 Thread Brian Lloyd
Chris wrote: I assume these caveats are spelled out here because Z3 developers don't want to slow down Z3 development to test/maintain Z2 compatibility. I know a lot about Z2 code, but I know very little about Z3 code. I'd like that to change, but it's likely that I'll just not have the

[Zope-dev] RE: Clarification re: Zope X3.1, 2.8

2005-03-18 Thread Chris McDonough
On Fri, 2005-03-18 at 13:45, Brian Lloyd wrote: A lot of time was spent talking about these (legitimate) concerns - unfortunately it will probably take a little time to distill all of that communication to the community. But let me take a shot ;) There are several different groups, with