[Zope-dev] Agenda for today's IRC meeting (3pm UTC on #zope)

2010-04-27 Thread Christian Theune

Hi everyone,

another weekly meeting is coming up today and I hope see you again 
around 3pm UTC at #zope at freenode. (That's a bit less than 4 hours 
from now on.)


Last week's summary is here:
https://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-dev/attachments/20100421/b1da5f70/attachment-0001.

Agenda
--

- State of bug tracking/LP usage
- zope.app
- emptying out Zope 3 bugs
- dealing with the zope.org project group
- Review bug day outcome
- Windows machines status update

Ongoing issues
--

Those issues are currently ongoing. We don't have to discuss them. We 
just need to follow up on them eventually.


- Bug tracking
  - Monitoring tracker status (Charlie Clark, ctheune)

- Towards a ZTK release
  - Establishing ZTK release engineering team (Z2, grok, BB)
  - Documentation
  - Release scope

- Test runners / nightly builds
- Windows machines

- Meta
  - How to organize open issues in the long run (Blueprints?
Other tool? Continue text files?)
  - Find second person to run the weekly meetings

Horizon
---

These items are currently tracked on the horizon. We won't discuss them
at this meeting, but we'll get to them at some point:

- Pondering *some* (re-)structuring of the ZTK to allow for better
  maintenance/release management/communication/marketing. (Chris
  McDonough)


Christian

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[Zope-dev] Agenda for today's IRC meeting (3pm UTC on #zope)

2010-04-13 Thread Christian Theune
another weekly meeting is coming up today and I hope see you again 
around 3pm
UTC at #zope at freenode. (That's about 2 hours from now on.)

Last week's summary is here:
https://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-dev/attachments/20100406/43469a51/attachment.txt
 


Agenda
-- 


- Upcoming bug day (Announcements, Mentors)
- Resurrecting the sprint schedule
   page, http://wiki.zope.org/zope/SprintSchedule
- A more general calendar (e.g., for Zope / Python related
   conferences, symposia, sprints, etc.)
- Test runners / nightly builds

Ongoing issues
-- 


Those issues are currently ongoing. We don't have to discuss them. We 
just need to follow up on them eventually.

- Test runners / nightly builds
   - Towards a list of projects/platforms/etc. we want guaranteed builds
 for.
   - Automatic binary egg builds for Windows
   - Access to Windows build machine for developers (AMI)
   - Access to Visual Studio license for the build machine

- Bug tracking
   - Monitoring tracker status (Charlie Clark, ctheune)
   - Temporary restructuring of ZTK packages into single project
 (ctheune)
   - Long-term restructuring of LP packages into individual projects
 and project group
   - Triaging Z3 bugs into ZTK, closing Z3 tracker then.

- Towards a ZTK release
   - Establishing ZTK release engineering team (Z2, grok, BB)
   - Documentation
   - Release scope

- Meta
   - How to organize open issues in the long run (Blueprints?
 MyCommittee? Other tool? Continue text files?)
   - Find second person to run the weekly meetings

Horizon
---

These items are currently tracked on the horizon. We won't discuss them
at this meeting, but we'll get to them at some point:

- Pondering *some* (re-)structuring of the ZTK to allow for better
   maintenance/release management/communication/marketing. (Chris
   McDonough)

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Re: [Zope-dev] Agenda for today's IRC meeting (3pm UTC on #zope)

2010-03-31 Thread Adam GROSZER
Hello Christian,

One point for the next agenda:
As Marius also had the issue to do a KGS 3.4.1.
Do we want to do that?

Tuesday, March 30, 2010, 11:09:05 AM, you wrote:

...

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Re: [Zope-dev] Agenda for today's IRC meeting (3pm UTC on #zope)

2010-03-31 Thread Christian Theune

On 03/31/2010 12:35 PM, Adam GROSZER wrote:

Hello Christian,

One point for the next agenda:
As Marius also had the issue to do a KGS 3.4.1.
Do we want to do that?


I can put it on the agenda, but it sounds like that could also be 
discussed on the mailinglist. I don't want to get rid of the mailinglist 
- I'd just like to provide an additional channel of communication. So 
there's no need to wait. Just ask on the list and if that doesn't work 
out, we'll discuss it in the weekly meeting.


Christian

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[Zope-dev] Agenda for today's IRC meeting (3pm UTC on #zope)

2010-03-30 Thread Christian Theune

Hi everyone,

today's the fifth weekly meeting and I hope to see you around 3pm UTC at 
#zope at freenode. (Still a few hours to go.)


Please plan 45 minutes for today instead of the usual 30 minutes: the
designated time frame of the meeting as an experiment is ending and thus 
I'd like to spend some time for reflection in addition to the regular 
meeting. If you can, please prepare your thoughts about the meeting: 
what you like or didn't like, what works for you, and what doesn't work, 
suggestions or questiosn you have.


Last week's summary is here:
https://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-dev/attachments/20100327/e26f6a8c/attachment.txt

Agenda
--

- Bug tracking
  - working on bugs regularly
  - keeping an eye on the situation

- How do we deal with proposed API changes and Python 3 compatibility?
  (Lennart Regebro)

- Review off weekly meeting experiment

Ongoing issues
--

Those issues are currently ongoing. We don't have to discuss them. We 
just need to follow up on them eventually.


- Test runners / nightly buids
  - Bootstrapping the coordinator volunteer. Clarify responsibilities
and current tasks.
  - Towards a list of projects/platforms/etc. we want guaranteed builds
for.
  - Automatic binary egg builds for Windows
  - Access to Windows build machine for developers (AMI)
  - Access to Visual Studio license for the build machine

- Bug tracking
  - Temporary restructuring of ZTK packages into single project
(ctheune)
  - Long-term restructuring of LP packages into individual projects and
project group
  - Triaging Z3 bugs into ZTK, closing Z3 tracker then.

- Towards a ZTK release
  - Establishing ZTK release engineering team (Z2, grok, BB)
  - Documentation
  - Release scope

Horizon
---

These items are currently tracked on the horizon. We won't discuss them
at this meeting, but we'll get to them at some point:

- Pondering *some* (re-)structuring of the ZTK to allow for better
  maintenance/release management/communication/marketing. (Chris
  McDonough)


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Re: [Zope-dev] Agenda for today's IRC meeting (3pm UTC on #zope)

2010-03-30 Thread Christian Theune
Hi,

On 03/30/2010 11:09 AM, Christian Theune wrote:
 Hi everyone,

 today's the fifth weekly meeting and I hope to see you around 3pm UTC at
 #zope at freenode. (Still a few hours to go.)

and ... I screwed up the DST switch and started the meeting an hour 
early. I didn't notice, though, because quite a few people joined in, 
still. We're currently in meta mode discussing the meetings itself, just 
in case you wanna jump in.

Sorry,
Christian

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[Zope-dev] Agenda for today's IRC meeting (3pm UTC on #zope)

2010-03-23 Thread Christian Theune
Hi everyone,

it's time for another weekly and here's the reminder including the
proposed agenda. Time and place, as usual, are 3pm UTC at #zope at
freenode. That's about 2 hours from now.

If you'd like to review last weeks summary, please check here:
https://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-dev/attachments/20100316/fe552cd1/attachment.txt

Agenda
--

- ZTK release manager

- Bug tracking
  - maintenaning the bug database
  - working on bugs regularly
  - keeping an eye on the situation
  - how to deal with toolkits versus packages in the launchpad structure


Ongoing issues
--

Those issues are currently ongoing. We don't have to discuss them. We
just need
to follow up on them eventually.

- Test runners / nightly buids
  - Bootstrapping the coordinator volunteer. Clarify responsibilities
and current tasks.
  - Towards a list of projects/platforms/etc. we want guaranteed builds
for.
  - Automatic binary egg builds for Windows
  - Access to Windows build machine for developers (AMI)
  - Access to Visual Studio license for the build machine

- Towards a ZTK release
  - Documentation
  - Release scope

Horizon
---

These items are currently tracked on the horizon. We won't discuss them
at this meeting, but we'll get to them at some point:

- How do we deal with proposed API changes and Python 3 compatibility?
  (Lennart Regebro)

- Pondering *some* (re-)structuring of the ZTK to allow for better
  maintenance/release management/communication/marketing. (Chris
  McDonough)

See you soon,
Christian

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Re: [Zope-dev] Agenda for today's IRC meeting (3pm UTC on #zope)

2010-03-18 Thread Godefroid Chapelle
On 16/03/10 14:28, Christian Theune wrote:

snip

 Horizon
 ---

 These items are currently tracked on the horizon. We won't discuss them
 at this meeting, but we'll get to them at some point:

 - Test runners / nightly builds
- Volunteer for coordinating automated builds
- Towards a list of projects/platforms/etc. we want guaranteed builds
  for
- Automatic binary egg builds for Windows
- Access to Windows (2003) build machines for developers (Baiju M.)

 - Bug tracking / working on bugs regularly

 - How do we deal with proposed API changes and Python 3 compatibility?
(Lennart Regebro)

 - Pondering *some* (re-)structuring of the ZTK to allow for better
maintenance/release management/communication/marketing. (Chris
McDonough)

 Hope to see you in about 90 minutes,
 Christian

As far as I know, Zope 2 has no release manager since Andreas retired 
after so many years of hard work.

I think there is a need for a new release manager.

Is that question part of the horizon of the IRC meetings ?
Or is it processed elsewhere ?

Thanks for taking the time of leading those meetings.

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Re: [Zope-dev] Agenda for today's IRC meeting (3pm UTC on #zope)

2010-03-18 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
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On 3/18/10 09:23 , Godefroid Chapelle wrote:
 As far as I know, Zope 2 has no release manager since Andreas retired 
 after so many years of hard work.
 
 I think there is a need for a new release manager.
 
 Is that question part of the horizon of the IRC meetings ?
 Or is it processed elsewhere ?

Setting up a simple process for release manager selection is on my plate
as part of my Zope Foundation work. I just haven't gotten to it yet.

jens

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[Zope-dev] Agenda for today's IRC meeting (3pm UTC on #zope)

2010-03-16 Thread Christian Theune
Hi everyone,

today's the third weekly meeting and here's the reminder including the
proposed agenda. Time and place, building on previous weeks, are 3pm UTC
at #zope at freenode. That's about 90 minutes from now.

If you'd like to review last week's summary, please check here:
https://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-dev/attachments/20100310/6e95116e/attachment-0001.txt

Agenda
--

With the experience from last week (we only barely managed to go through
a single issue) I'll have the agenda a little more reduced. If
we run out of topics, we can move over to stuff from the horizon.

- Test runners / nightly builds
  - Short status report (Volunteer, access to Windows build environment)

- Towards a ZTK release
  - What is needed for a release?
  - Who's the release manager?
  - Can we ensure building Windows binaries?

- Wrap-up (5 minutes)


Horizon
---

These items are currently tracked on the horizon. We won't discuss them
at this meeting, but we'll get to them at some point:

- Test runners / nightly builds
  - Volunteer for coordinating automated builds
  - Towards a list of projects/platforms/etc. we want guaranteed builds
for
  - Automatic binary egg builds for Windows
  - Access to Windows (2003) build machines for developers (Baiju M.)

- Bug tracking / working on bugs regularly

- How do we deal with proposed API changes and Python 3 compatibility?
  (Lennart Regebro)

- Pondering *some* (re-)structuring of the ZTK to allow for better
  maintenance/release management/communication/marketing. (Chris
  McDonough)

Hope to see you in about 90 minutes,
Christian

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[Zope-dev] Agenda for today's IRC meeting (3pm UTC on #zope)

2010-03-09 Thread Christian Theune
(gmane seems to be stuck, so maybe this ends up being send twice...)

Hi,

continuing the experiment of weekly meetings, here's the reminder for
today's meeting including the proposed agenda.

Time and place is, again, 3pm UTC at #z...@freenode.

If you'd like to review last week's summary, please check here:
https://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-dev/attachments/20100302/60a8224d/attachment.txt

Agenda
--

These are agenda items compiled from last weeks summary and input from
the community:

- Test runners / nightly builds (10 minutes)
  - Volunteer for coordinating automated builds
  - Towards a list of projects/platforms/etc. we want guaranteed builds
for
  - Access to Windows (2003) build machines for developers (Baiju M.)

- Towards a ZTK release (10 minutes)
  - What is needed for a release?
  - Who's the release manager?
  - Can we ensure building Windows binaries?

- Bug tracking / working on bugs regularly (5 minutes)

- Wrap-up (5 minutes)


Horizon
---

These items are currently tracked on the horizon: we won't discuss them
at this meeting, but we'll get to them at some point:

- How do we deal with proposed API changes and Python 3 compatibility?
  (Lennart Regebro)

- Pondering *some* (re-)structuring of the ZTK to allow for better
  maintenance/release management/communication/marketing. (Chris
  McDonough)

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[Zope-dev] Agenda for today's IRC meeting (3pm UTC on #zope)

2010-03-09 Thread Christian Theune
Agenda for today's IRC meeting at 3pm UTC on #zope

Hi,

continuing the experiment of weekly meetings, here's the reminder for
today's meeting including the proposed agenda.

Time and place is, again, 3pm UTC at #z...@freenode.

If you'd like to review last week's summary, please check here:
https://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-dev/attachments/20100302/60a8224d/attachment.txt

Agenda
--

These are agenda items compiled from last weeks summary and input from
the community:

- Test runners / nightly builds (10 minutes)
  - Volunteer for coordinating automated builds
  - Towards a list of projects/platforms/etc. we want guaranteed builds
for
  - Access to Windows (2003) build machines for developers (Baiju M.)

- Towards a ZTK release (10 minutes)
  - What is needed for a release?
  - Who's the release manager?
  - Can we ensure building Windows binaries?

- Bug tracking / working on bugs regularly (5 minutes)

- Wrap-up (5 minutes)


Horizon
---

These items are currently tracked on the horizon: we won't discuss them
at this meeting, but we'll get to them at some point:

- How do we deal with proposed API changes and Python 3 compatibility?
  (Lennart Regebro)

- Pondering *some* (re-)structuring of the ZTK to allow for better
  maintenance/release management/communication/marketing. (Chris
  McDonough)

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Re: [Zope-dev] Agenda for today's IRC meeting (3pm UTC on #zope)

2010-03-09 Thread Hanno Schlichting
Hi.

On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 1:48 PM, Christian Theune c...@gocept.com wrote:
 Agenda
 --

  - Can we ensure building Windows binaries?

We talked about the status of this a bit. I just finished checking the
list of packages with C extensions as listed at
http://wiki.zope.org/bluebream/StatusOfWindowsBinaryPackages

The listed packages currently match the list of packages used in the
ZTK and the zopeapp.cfg file. I have created some more Windows binary
eggs for Python 2.6 32/64 bit and updated the wiki page.

All of them now have binary eggs for Python 2.6 32bit and 64bit. I
don't have any access to a build machine for other versions anymore.

There's some general progress on the whole issue of getting better
Windows support. I'll wait for Theuni to post the summary of todays
chat to follow-up.

Hanno
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