Re: [Zope-dev] is threading in zope useful ?

2004-04-28 Thread sathya
[christian] That said , since ZEO ends up doing multiple python interpreters its possibly the more reliable approach to take advantage of SMP linux. please point out any flaws in my thought process . SMP is not doing any good for you when not running multiple Python processes. The GIL doesn

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: [Zope3-dev] ATTENTION! cvs to subversion transitiontomorrow

2004-04-28 Thread Paolo Invernizzi
Tim Peters wrote: One glitch, which may be all over the place: some of the "text files" got checked out with Windows line ends, but most did not. For example, 14 of the 19 *.txt files in ZConfig ended up with Windows line ends, but none of the 37 *.py files did. Ack, no, none of the checked-out

Re: [Zope-dev] is threading in zope useful ?

2004-04-28 Thread Dario Lopez-Kästen
sathya wrote: What about threads on linux ? will binding a process to a CPU also mean all threads spawned by the process are also bound to the same processor ? I am not aware of linux support for binding threads to a CPU so I guess it does not matter . For a full discussion of this and oter SMP

[Zope-dev] DEFEREDL cvs to subversion transition

2004-04-28 Thread Jim Fulton
All, We will *not* to the cvs to subversion transition today. Feel free to check in against the cvs head. Tim, Thanks for trying this out. It looks like we're not ready to convert yet. :( We need to sort out the issues you raised. Clearly, the move to subversion is going to take longer than I'

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: [Zope3-dev] ATTENTION! cvs to subversion transitiontomorrow

2004-04-28 Thread Jim Fulton
Paolo Invernizzi wrote: Tim Peters wrote: One glitch, which may be all over the place: some of the "text files" got checked out with Windows line ends, but most did not. For example, 14 of the 19 *.txt files in ZConfig ended up with Windows line ends, but none of the 37 *.py files did. Ack, n

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: [Zope3-dev] ATTENTION! cvs to subversion transitiontomorrow

2004-04-28 Thread Paolo Invernizzi
Jim Fulton wrote: None. The files were not added or imported. They were input via cvs2svn, which uses dump files. The cvs2svn utility apparently doesn't set mime types, or any other property except cvs2svn:cvs-rev. So, given your explanation, why did Tim get bad line endings I wonder. Jim I've

RE: [Zope-dev] Re: [Zope3-dev] ATTENTION! cvs tosubversion transitiontomorrow

2004-04-28 Thread Tim Peters
[Jim] ... > So, given your explanation, why did Tim get bad line endings I wonder. The relevant info is scattered all over the docs. Bottom line is that svn does line-end conversions if and only if the svn:eol-style property on a file is set to a valid value (where "native" is what's wanted most

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: [Zope3-dev] ATTENTION! cvs to subversion transitiontomorrow

2004-04-28 Thread Jim Fulton
Paolo Invernizzi wrote: Jim Fulton wrote: None. The files were not added or imported. They were input via cvs2svn, which uses dump files. The cvs2svn utility apparently doesn't set mime types, or any other property except cvs2svn:cvs-rev. So, given your explanation, why did Tim get bad line endin

Should we require windows users to use tools that honor Unix line endings? (Re: [Zope-dev] Re: [Zope3-dev] ATTENTION! cvs to subversion transitiontomorrow)

2004-04-28 Thread Jim Fulton
Tim Peters wrote: [Jim Fulton] ... You will be able to do read-only anonymous checkouts like so: svn co svn://svn.zope.org/repos/main//trunk For example: svn co svn://svn.zope.org/repos/main/ZConfig/trunk FYI, I tried that on Windows (XP), and it worked fine. One glitch, which may be all

[Zope-dev] ATTENTION! cvs to subversion transition DEFERED indefinately

2004-04-28 Thread Jim Fulton
Sorry for the false start. I totally missed a flaw in subversion's handling of text-file line endings. I suspect that this is fixable, but it's not going to be fixed today. I can't afford to spend much more time on this before Zope X3.0 gets to beta, so I don't expect to get back to this for a mon

Re: Should we require windows users to use tools that honor Unix lineendings? (Re: [Zope-dev] Re: [Zope3-dev] ATTENTION! cvs to subversiontransitiontomorrow)

2004-04-28 Thread Lennart Regebro
From: "Jim Fulton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > I found this to be so unbelievable, that I had to resoearch it myself. [...] > unbelievable, I couldn't help it. > > I think we'll have to develop a standard set of config file settings like > > that for committers to add to their personal svn configs -- E

Re: Should we require windows users to use tools that honor Unix line endings? (Re: [Zope-dev] Re: [Zope3-dev] ATTENTION! cvs to subversion transitiontomorrow)

2004-04-28 Thread Max M
Jim Fulton wrote: I think the "real" answer, the answer that the svn (and arch) developers believe in the heart of hearts is that windows users should be using tools that understand, well, understand and always produce Unix line endings. Is it practical to require windows users to use tools tha

[Zope-dev] Demonstration subversion repository created

2004-04-28 Thread Jim Fulton
I've done a conversion of a snapshot of the CVS database from yesterday. This is just to allow people to play with subversion and see what the respoitory might look like when we do cut over. To browse the respository: http://svn.zope.org/ To do a read-only checkout: svn co svn://svn.zope.org

RE: Should we require windows users to use tools that honor Unixlineendings? (Re: [Zope-dev] Re: [Zope3-dev] ATTENTION! cvs tosubversiontransitiontomorrow)

2004-04-28 Thread Tim Peters
>>> I think we'll have to develop a standard set of config file settings >>> like that for committers to add to their personal svn configs -- [Lennart Regebro] > Eh. WHAT!?! OK, that there are settings like these, but aren't they > configured on the server? > They are CLIENT side? That is very wei

[Zope-dev] Re: Demonstration subversion repository created

2004-04-28 Thread Max M
Jim Fulton wrote: I've done a conversion of a snapshot of the CVS database from yesterday. This is just to allow people to play with subversion and see what the respoitory might look like when we do cut over. To browse the respository: http://svn.zope.org/ It seems to have some kind of dns p

[Zope-dev] Re: Demonstration subversion repository created

2004-04-28 Thread Jim Fulton
Max M wrote: Jim Fulton wrote: I've done a conversion of a snapshot of the CVS database from yesterday. This is just to allow people to play with subversion and see what the respoitory might look like when we do cut over. To browse the respository: http://svn.zope.org/ It seems to have some

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Demonstration subversion repository created

2004-04-28 Thread Stefan H. Holek
Me too! :( Strangely, it worked fine earlier today... Stefan On Mittwoch, Apr 28, 2004, at 21:01 Europe/Vienna, Jim Fulton wrote: Hm, I can get to it from a machine outside of ZC or Zope.org. Is anyone else haveing troubles getting to it? Jim -- The time has come to start talking about wh

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Demonstration subversion repository created

2004-04-28 Thread Chris McDonough
I was just able to browse it via ViewCVS... On Wed, 2004-04-28 at 15:01, Jim Fulton wrote: > Max M wrote: > > Jim Fulton wrote: > > > >> > >> I've done a conversion of a snapshot of the CVS database from yesterday. > >> This is just to allow people to play with subversion and see what the > >> r

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Demonstration subversion repository created

2004-04-28 Thread Chris McDonough
Oops, but now I can't! On Wed, 2004-04-28 at 15:01, Jim Fulton wrote: > Max M wrote: > > Jim Fulton wrote: > > > >> > >> I've done a conversion of a snapshot of the CVS database from yesterday. > >> This is just to allow people to play with subversion and see what the > >> respoitory > >> might

RE: [Zope-dev] Re: Demonstration subversion repository created

2004-04-28 Thread Scott A. Pascoe
I pounded on it a few minutes before responding.. I'm not having problems... -- Thanks, Scott -Original Message- From: Jim Fulton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2004 2:02 PM To: Max M Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Zope-dev] Re: Demonstration subversion repository c

[Zope-dev] Re: Demonstration subversion repository created

2004-04-28 Thread Max M
Jim Fulton wrote: Hm, I can get to it from a machine outside of ZC or Zope.org. Is anyone else haveing troubles getting to it? Now it's back up. C:\>ping svn.zope.org Pinger cvs.zope.org [12.155.117.30] med 32 byte data: Svar fra 12.155.117.30: byte=32 tid=100ms TTL=53 Svar fra 12.155.117.30:

Re: Should we require windows users to use tools that honor Unixlineendings? (Re: [Zope-dev] Re: [Zope3-dev] ATTENTION! cvs tosubversiontransitiontomorrow)

2004-04-28 Thread Lennart Regebro
> For line translations, it appears that svn (and CVS) do that purely on the > client side, and that makes sense: Yes, but I'm pretty sure there are default settings for which files that should be treated as binary on the server side in CVS. At least I rember setting it up. :´)

[Zope-dev] Re: Demonstration subversion repository created

2004-04-28 Thread Max M
Max M wrote: Now it's back up. And it works fine. Text files are in Unix format. As expected. regards Max M ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lis

Re: Should we require windows users to use tools that honor Unixlineendings? (Re: [Zope-dev] Re: [Zope3-dev] ATTENTION! cvs tosubversiontransitiontomorrow)

2004-04-28 Thread Fred Drake
On Wednesday 28 April 2004 04:01 pm, Lennart Regebro wrote: > Yes, but I'm pretty sure there are default settings for which files that > should be treated as binary on the server side in CVS. At least I rember > setting it up. :´) Yes, this is specified in the CVSROOT/cvswrappers file. -Fre

[Zope-dev] Zope 3 (or 2 1/2 ;) sprint at EuroPython?

2004-04-28 Thread Jim Fulton
Martijn Faassen wrote: Martijn Faassen wrote: So far nobody has stepped up to organize a Zope 3 sprint before and/or after EuroPython this year. If you want to organize a sprint please send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] No such mail was sent as far as I can see. I just sent it. Organizing a sp

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: The bleak Future of Zope?

2004-04-28 Thread Dieter Maurer
Paul Winkler wrote at 2004-4-26 17:45 -0400: >On Mon, Apr 26, 2004 at 07:47:39PM +0200, Dieter Maurer wrote: >> Our minimal tool usage is probably: "Actions", "Membership", >> "Skins", "Types", "Workflow". > >I'm curious... do you use these with sites that are not >in any other way based on CMFCore

Re: [Zope-dev] is threading in zope useful ?

2004-04-28 Thread sathya
Dario Lopez-Kästen wrote: thanks much for the info. turns out that the updated kernel rpms for RH8 and RH 9 2.4.20-28.8smp contain the patch for cpu affinity as well at this point seems like a good idea to deploy ZEO and bind each client to a processor and test it out ,hopefully with a 4way sm

RE: [Zope-Coders] RE: [Zope-dev] Re: [Zope3-dev] ATTENTION! cvs tosubversion transitiontomorrow

2004-04-28 Thread Tim Peters
[Jim] >>svn co svn+ssh://svn.zope.org/repos/main//trunk [Tim] > Is that supposed [to] work already? All I've been able to get out > of it is, e.g., > > C:\Code>svn co svn+ssh://svn.zope.org/repos/main/ZConfig/trunk szc2 > svn: Connection closed unexpectedly > > where the error msg app