Re: [Zope-dev] How to add sections to zope.conf?

2004-07-16 Thread Chris Withers
Dieter Maurer wrote: You must extend the "zopeschema.xml" or let your process use a schema derived from "zopeschema.xml" (schema support some form of inheritance). Is there any way for a Product to do this or do I actually have to go and manually spank zopeschema.xml when I install my product? Ch

Re: [Zope-dev] Making a ZSQL.DA fully multi-threaded?

2004-07-16 Thread Chris Withers
Brad Clements wrote: On 9 Jul 2004 at 21:17, Dieter Maurer wrote: Check whether the connection is maintained in a "_v_" attribute (in this case, it is per thread). Otherwise, the connection would need to be maintained in a module global registry indexed with a DA id (e.g. its ZODB path). This is t

[Zope-dev] manage_afterAdd +webdav + two times called

2004-07-16 Thread Kai Hoppert
Hi all, zope2.7.2-RC1 cmf 1.4.4 i tried and tested a bit around with webdav and noticed that manage_afterAdd is called two times in putting a file into Plone . Yea i know this is not the list for Plone but i think this is more a problem from zope, webdav and cmf. File "/var/lib/zope271/lib/p

Re: [Zope-dev] Granularity of Persistent Objects

2004-07-16 Thread Lennart Regebro
Ian Beatty wrote: However, I don't know how to do this. Is it as simple as using a PersistentMapping where I'd normally use a standard Python dictionary? Well, yes. Or shall I wrap each one in a custom class that subclasses Persistent? That is usually an even better idea. And for big dictionaries,

[Zope-dev] mount a plonesite with zeo storage

2004-07-16 Thread Martino Salvato
hi, I'm just try to use Zope 2.7 and Plone with zeo storage support. and I would like to put a CMFPlone site into a zeo client storage to mount in a zope instance. I have added in my zeo.conf   path $INSTANCE/var/plonesite.fs and in zope.conf    mount-point /plonesite    container-class Pr

Re: [Zope-dev] Granularity of Persistent Objects

2004-07-16 Thread Ian Beatty
> > Or shall I wrap each one in a custom class that subclasses Persistent? > > That is usually an even better idea. And for big dictionaries, you may > want to use the BTree objects for storage. So in my containing class, I just have class MyContainer( Persistent ): subObject =

Re: [Zope-dev] manage_afterAdd +webdav + two times called

2004-07-16 Thread Florent Guillaume
Could you add this as a bug in the collector please ? http://collector.zope.org/Zope Florent In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you write: > Hi all, > > zope2.7.2-RC1 > cmf 1.4.4 > > i tried and tested a bit around with webdav and noticed that manage_afterAdd > is called two times in putting a file

[Zope-dev] Re: [ZODB-Dev] Getting rid of ZODB versions (was Re: [ZWeb] Are Versions evil?)

2004-07-16 Thread Christian Robottom Reis
On Thu, Jul 15, 2004 at 06:09:29PM -0400, Jim Fulton wrote: > >Locks are important, however, in cases such as generating unique IDs > >based on integer attributes in a database. > > I don't know what this is. Well, let's say I wanted to have a unique ID for payments (people want to refer to them

Re: [Zope-dev] Granularity of Persistent Objects

2004-07-16 Thread Florent Guillaume
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you write: > > > Or shall I wrap each one in a custom class that subclasses Persistent? > > > > That is usually an even better idea. And for big dictionaries, you may > > want to use the BTree objects for storage. > > So in my containing class, I just have > >

Re: [Zope-dev] Making a ZSQL.DA fully multi-threaded?

2004-07-16 Thread Brad Clements
On 16 Jul 2004 at 8:57, Chris Withers wrote: > This often means that many more database connections are opened than are > actually necessary. And if you start timing out inactive database > connectiosn on the database side, you're in for a world of pain and > suffering. > > I branched ZOracleDA s

[Zope-dev] zope 2.7.1 on xp profesional

2004-07-16 Thread Chris Johnson
<> I get this error on running runzope installed on xp profesional ibm thinkpad. Any idea what is happening ? cj C:\Zope-Instance\bin>runzope.bat>c:\zopeError.txt C:\Program Files\Zope-2.7.1\bin\lib\fcntl.py:7: DeprecationWarning: the FCNTL mo dule is deprecated; please use fcntl Deprecation

Re: [Zope-dev] Making a ZSQL.DA fully multi-threaded?

2004-07-16 Thread Andy Dustman
On Fri, 16 Jul 2004 10:36:27 -0400, Brad Clements <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The SAP folks say their adapter is "multi-thread capable", but I've come to believe > that only > means that it's ok to open a connection in one thread and use it in another, but NOT > to have > 2 threads make reques

[Zope-dev] zope 2.7.1 on xp profesional

2004-07-16 Thread Chris Johnson
I get this error on running runzope installed on xp profesional ibm thinkpad. Any idea what is happening ? cj C:\Zope-Instance\bin>runzope.bat>c:\zopeError.txt C:\Program Files\Zope-2.7.1\bin\lib\fcntl.py:7: DeprecationWarning: the FCNTL mo dule is deprecated; please use fcntl DeprecationWa

Re: [Zope-dev] Making a ZSQL.DA fully multi-threaded?

2004-07-16 Thread sathya
sqlrelay seems to hold some promise for connection pooling although I am not sure if theres support for sapdb Brad Clements wrote: On 16 Jul 2004 at 8:57, Chris Withers wrote: This often means that many more database connections are opened than are actually necessary. And if you start timing out

Re: [Zope-dev] zope 2.7.1 on xp profesional

2004-07-16 Thread Tim Peters
[Chris Johnson] > I get this error on running runzope installed on xp profesional ibm > thinkpad. > > Any idea what is happening ? > > cj > > > C:\Zope-Instance\bin>runzope.bat>c:\zopeError.txt > C:\Program Files\Zope-2.7.1\bin\lib\fcntl.py:7: DeprecationWarning: the FCNTL module > is deprecated

Re: [Zope-dev] Making a ZSQL.DA fully multi-threaded?

2004-07-16 Thread Brad Clements
On 16 Jul 2004 at 11:38, Andy Dustman wrote: > > Also, two threads can' t open a connection "at the same time" because > > their connection table management isn't "thread safe". > > That does suck, but it doesn't seem like an insurmountable problem for a > DA. You just need a per-DA instance mute

[Zope-dev] Where are all the good docs?

2004-07-16 Thread Bryan Simmons
I've recently persuaded my company and our clients that Zope is THE way to go for Portal software. Now I find myself having to hack away at sources more and more to meed their needs. With that in mind, how can I find out something like what functions can be called from the context object? I've no

Re: "RewriteMap"s inefficient (was: [Zope-dev] Apache Mod_rewrite question)

2004-07-16 Thread Dieter Maurer
Ganesha Shanmuganathan wrote at 2004-7-15 15:57 -0500: > ... RewriteMap files with the same name are identified ... >That is strange! It looks like a bug in mod_rewrite then. I checked the >source and found that it does compare by map name. Thanks for your >feedback But the cache is not taken from

Re: [Zope-dev] How to add sections to zope.conf?

2004-07-16 Thread Dieter Maurer
Chris Withers wrote at 2004-7-16 08:52 +0100: >Dieter Maurer wrote: >> You must extend the "zopeschema.xml" or let your process use >> a schema derived from "zopeschema.xml" (schema support some form >> of inheritance). > >Is there any way for a Product to do this or do I actually have to go and >

Re: [Zope-dev] manage_afterAdd +webdav + two times called

2004-07-16 Thread Dieter Maurer
Kai Hoppert wrote at 2004-7-16 10:54 +0200: >zope2.7.2-RC1 >cmf 1.4.4 > >i tried and tested a bit around with webdav and noticed that manage_afterAdd is >called two times in putting a file into Plone . Yea i know this is not the list for >Plone but i think this is more a problem from zope, webdav

[Zope-dev] Re: [ZODB-Dev] Getting rid of ZODB versions (was Re: [ZWeb] Are Versions evil?)

2004-07-16 Thread Dieter Maurer
Jim Fulton wrote at 2004-7-15 17:18 -0400: >Dieter Maurer wrote: >I don't think anyone find versions useful in cases where >locks matter. With versions, if you get resource contention, >someone loses. Yes, but hopefully the short running (inexpensive) and not the long running (expensive) process

[Zope-dev] Re: [ZODB-Dev] Getting rid of ZODB versions (was Re: [ZWeb] Are Versions evil?)

2004-07-16 Thread Dieter Maurer
Christian Robottom Reis wrote at 2004-7-16 10:27 -0300: > ... >> The database itself uses a short-lived lock to generate oids. > >Functionality which would be interesting if it were publically available >to solve the aforementioned problem. The functionality to get OIDs is there. It is the "new_oi

[Zope-dev] Re: [ZODB-Dev] Getting rid of ZODB versions (was Re: [ZWeb] Are Versions evil?)

2004-07-16 Thread Christian Robottom Reis
On Fri, Jul 16, 2004 at 07:50:48PM +0200, Dieter Maurer wrote: > Christian Robottom Reis wrote at 2004-7-16 10:27 -0300: > > ... > >> The database itself uses a short-lived lock to generate oids. > > > >Functionality which would be interesting if it were publically available > >to solve the aforeme

[Zope-dev] Re: [ZODB-Dev] Getting rid of ZODB versions (was Re: [ZWeb] Are Versions evil?)

2004-07-16 Thread Christian Robottom Reis
On Fri, Jul 16, 2004 at 08:39:52PM +0200, Dieter Maurer wrote: > > In either case, if you have > >resource contention, you are probably out of luck. > > Luck is not a binary concept ;-) > > Our current most essential use case for "Version"s is reindexing > large catalogs. Reindexing can take hour

Re: [Zope-dev] Making a ZSQL.DA fully multi-threaded?

2004-07-16 Thread Ganesha Shanmuganathan
Hi, On Fri, 2004-07-16 at 09:36, Brad Clements wrote: > On 16 Jul 2004 at 8:57, Chris Withers wrote: > > > This often means that many more database connections are opened than are > > actually necessary. And if you start timing out inactive database > > connectiosn on the database side, you're in

Re: [Zope-dev] Where are all the good docs?

2004-07-16 Thread Paul Winkler
On Fri, Jul 16, 2004 at 02:53:20PM -0400, Bryan Simmons wrote: > I've recently persuaded my company and our clients that Zope is THE > way to go for Portal software. Now I find myself having to hack away > at sources more and more to meed their needs. With that in mind, how > can I find out somet

Re: [Zope-dev] Where are all the good docs?

2004-07-16 Thread Paul Winkler
On Fri, Jul 16, 2004 at 05:44:46PM -0400, Paul Winkler wrote: > On Fri, Jul 16, 2004 at 02:53:20PM -0400, Bryan Simmons wrote: > > I've recently persuaded my company and our clients that Zope is THE > > way to go for Portal software. Now I find myself having to hack away > > at sources more and mo

Re: [Zope-dev] Where are all the good docs?

2004-07-16 Thread Bryan Simmons
That product sure does open up a wealth of information but it really does me no good with understanding what context is and what functions apply to it On Fri, 16 Jul 2004 17:45:28 -0400, Paul Winkler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, Jul 16, 2004 at 05:44:46PM -0400, Paul Winkler wrote: > >

Re: "RewriteMap"s inefficient (was: [Zope-dev] Apache Mod_rewrite question)

2004-07-16 Thread Ganesha Shanmuganathan
Hi Dieter, On Fri, 2004-07-16 at 13:10, Dieter Maurer wrote: > Ganesha Shanmuganathan wrote at 2004-7-15 15:57 -0500: > > ... RewriteMap files with the same name are identified ... > >That is strange! It looks like a bug in mod_rewrite then. I checked the > >source and found that it does compare b

Re: [Zope-dev] Where are all the good docs?

2004-07-16 Thread Paul Winkler
On Fri, Jul 16, 2004 at 07:37:01PM -0400, Bryan Simmons wrote: > That product sure does open up a wealth of information but it really > does me no good with understanding what context is and what functions > apply to it "context" is a generic name for the current, er, context. e.g. if i visit