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Subject: OK : Zope-2.10 Python-2.4.6 : Linux
From: Zope Tests
Date: Thu Jan 21 20:36:54 EST 2010
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On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 04:55, Alex Clark wrote:
> We certainly
> have not reached the goal of helping newcomers understand the Zope ecosystem
> in any other way to date, IMO.)
If this is so, then I'm surprised. It seems perfectly clear to me.
1. In the beginning there is Python, the language.
Am Freitag 22 Januar 2010 14:46:16 schrieb Lennart Regebro:
> On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 04:55, Alex Clark wrote:
> > We certainly
> > have not reached the goal of helping newcomers understand the Zope
> > ecosystem in any other way to date, IMO.)
>
> If this is so, then I'm surprised. It seems perfe
On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 7:58 PM, Hermann Himmelbauer wrote:
> When it gets to ZCA, I can't find anything, except for Baiju's book and maybe
> somewhere some document about the Zope Component Architecture. If we
> introduce the word ZCA, I would recommend to put up a simple page on
> e.g. "zca.zope
On 2010-01-22, Lennart Regebro wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 04:55, Alex Clark wrote:
>> We certainly
>> have not reached the goal of helping newcomers understand the Zope ecosystem
>> in any other way to date, IMO.)
>
> If this is so, then I'm surprised. It seems perfectly clear to me.
Ah! T
On 2010-01-22, Hermann Himmelbauer wrote:
> Am Freitag 22 Januar 2010 14:46:16 schrieb Lennart Regebro:
>> On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 04:55, Alex Clark wrote:
>> > We certainly
>> > have not reached the goal of helping newcomers understand the Zope
>> > ecosystem in any other way to date, IMO.)
>>
>
On 1/22/10 14:46 , Lennart Regebro wrote:
> * BFG is a minimalistic web framework built on Zope ideas and
> experiences, but as a part of it's minimalistic nature does not
> include *anything* of the ZTK, it just builds on the ZCA. But you can
> use the ZTK, if you want to, you are just not require
Hi,
On 01/20/2010 08:56 AM, Yuan HOng wrote:
> Hi,
>
> The svn check out path for Zope 3.4 given on the following page:
>
> http://docs.zope.org/developer/subversion-readonly-checkouts.html
>
> is not correct. The correct one should be:
>
> svn co svn://svn.zope.org/repos/main/Zope3/branches/3
On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 4:11 PM, Wichert Akkerman wrote:
> BFG uses the ZCA for some implementation details, I'm not sure if that
> is the same as 'builds on the ZCA'. I don't think you can use the ZTK
> with BFG - the vast majority of ZTK packages are too tied to concepts
> that do not apply to B
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(apologies in advance for the cross-post: we need this to reach the
whole Zope community).
The Zope Foundation board is pleased to announce the regular 2010
general meeting of the foundation will be held on Wednesday, 24 February
2010, at 17:00 UTC.
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Wichert Akkerman wrote:
> On 1/22/10 14:46 , Lennart Regebro wrote:
>> * BFG is a minimalistic web framework built on Zope ideas and
>> experiences, but as a part of it's minimalistic nature does not
>> include *anything* of the ZTK, it just builds on
On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 15:28, Hermann Himmelbauer wrote:
> What I can't find is some entry page for ZTK (at least I find
> http://docs.zope.org/zopetoolkit).
Well isn't that enough? It's nothing you can download and test, it's a
collection of libraries of limited interest outside those who use Z
On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 15:38, Alex Clark wrote:
>> 2. Then you get ZCA a component architecture for Python. It has
>> nothing to do with Web whatsoever.
>
> E.g. zope.component and one or two others?
Yup.
>> 3. Then we have ZTK. A toolkit for building web frameworks.
>
> This is where you lose
On 2010-1-22 18:41, Tres Seaver wrote:
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> Wichert Akkerman wrote:
>> On 1/22/10 14:46 , Lennart Regebro wrote:
>>> * BFG is a minimalistic web framework built on Zope ideas and
>>> experiences, but as a part of it's minimalistic nature does not
>>>
On 22.01.10 19:42, Lennart Regebro wrote:
> Yeah, the component architecture maybe could use some more advertising.
FullACK I think the ZCA is our USP.
As I said before, we will launch a new zope.de website in Germany soon
and produce a imagebroschure about Zope which will both emphasize this
poi
Hello guys,
I'm coding some stuff, using zope.app.authentication and this package
appears to do too many things, in my opinion.
Would it be wise to cut off some of the functionalities ? The pure PAU
components could go in a dedicated package, like
zope.pluggableauthservice
The whole handling of pr
I nominate Tres Seaver.
- C
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> (apologies in advance for the cross-post: we need this to reach the
> whole Zope community).
>
> The Zope Foundation board is pleased to announce the regular 2010
> general meeting of the found
Gah, sorry for the multilist cross-post, this should have gone to the
foundation list only.
- C
Chris McDonough wrote:
> I nominate Tres Seaver.
>
> - C
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> Tres Seaver wrote:
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Wichert Akkerman wrote:
> On 2010-1-22 18:41, Tres Seaver wrote:
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>> Wichert Akkerman wrote:
>>> On 1/22/10 14:46 , Lennart Regebro wrote:
* BFG is a minimalistic web framework built on Zope ideas and
experiences, but as a part of it's
Lennart Regebro wrote:
>
>>> 5. There is also BFG, which doesn't include/build on the ZTK (as the others
>>> do).
>> Right, it's "loosely coupled" with the ZCA, but you can throw that out too,
>> if you like?
>
> Chris has to answer that.
BFG uses some Zope software, like, say, Pylons uses soft
On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 7:59 PM, Souheil CHELFOUH wrote:
> I'm coding some stuff, using zope.app.authentication and this package
> appears to do too many things, in my opinion.
> Would it be wise to cut off some of the functionalities ? The pure PAU
> components could go in a dedicated package, li
I don't think so. The PAU is quite a big chunk and would really
deserve to live on its own piece of land.
zope.authentication is really about the authentication basics, not all
the pluggability and plugin that PAU brings in.
zope.app.authentication is just too confuse as it defines PAU and a
whole
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Wichert Akkerman wrote:
> On 2010-1-22 18:41, Tres Seaver wrote:
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>> Wichert Akkerman wrote:
>>> On 1/22/10 14:46 , Lennart Regebro wrote:
* BFG is a minimalistic web framework built on Zope id
Cool picture, but I might put ZCA at its own level (maybe by moving Zope
Toolkit to the framework level, or giving it its own level).
- C
Lennart Regebro wrote:
> Does this mailinglist accept attachements?
>
> Let's test.
>
>
>
> --
Hi there,
This is to announce my withdrawal from the Zope Toolkit steering
group.
I withdraw from the Zope Toolkit steering group for two reasons:
* The steering group is not working as a group. Most steering group
members haven't been doing much steering. This left me by myself to
try to
On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 22:09, Chris McDonough wrote:
> Cool picture, but I might put ZCA at its own level (maybe by moving Zope
> Toolkit to the framework level, or giving it its own level).
It's possible that the component level is pointless. I mostly wanted
the framework level and the applicat
On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 10:37 PM, Lennart Regebro wrote:
> I also don't know of any applications running on the other frameworks,
> which is why it's so empty there.
SchoolTool and Launchpad have been mentioned as Zope3 applications in
the past. Karl would be an example for BFG. Not sure if there
On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 22:44, Hanno Schlichting wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 10:37 PM, Lennart Regebro wrote:
>> I also don't know of any applications running on the other frameworks,
>> which is why it's so empty there.
>
> SchoolTool and Launchpad have been mentioned as Zope3 applications
On Jan 22, 2010, at 4:51 PM, Lennart Regebro wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 22:44, Hanno Schlichting wrote:
>> On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 10:37 PM, Lennart Regebro wrote:
>>> I also don't know of any applications running on the other frameworks,
>>> which is why it's so empty there.
>>
>> Schoo
On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 10:51 PM, Lennart Regebro wrote:
> Is Launchpad available as an application you can install and run?
For some definition of that, yes: https://dev.launchpad.net/
Hanno
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Martijn Faassen wrote:
> Hi there,
>
> This is to announce my withdrawal from the Zope Toolkit steering
> group.
I'm not sure if you're reading this, but I wanted to thank you anyway
for the tremendous amount of energy you've put into the steering
group.
kind regards,
jw
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