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Martijn Faassen wrote:
> Hey,
>
> On 10/20/07, Lennart Regebro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> On 10/20/07, Martijn Faassen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> I'd say it is a general concern of a framework to try to avoid how often
>>> you need to repeat yo
Hey,
On 10/20/07, Dieter Maurer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> Zope 2 had (for products) all three things together.
>
> It was felt that this was a too tight coupling. Therefore, for Zope 3
> the paradigma "explicit is better than implicit" (a paradigma, that I
> personally dislike and find w
Hey,
On 10/20/07, Tres Seaver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Martijn Faassen wrote:
[snip]
> > Since this appears to be a rare case that is the exception, what about
> > using the new ZCML exclude framework for this case? You need to know
> > what you are doing, but this use case is for people who k
Martijn Faassen wrote at 2007-10-20 03:15 +0200:
> ...
>I'd say it is a general concern of a framework to try to avoid how often
>you need to repeat yourself. Right now you to use a Zope 3 package you
>need to do the following things:
>
>* list the egg in your setup.py dependencies
>
>* load the
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Lennart Regebro wrote:
> On 10/20/07, Martijn Faassen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> I'd say it is a general concern of a framework to try to avoid how often
>> you need to repeat yourself. Right now you to use a Zope 3 package you
>> need to do the fol
Tres Seaver wrote:
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Martijn Faassen wrote:
Tres Seaver wrote:
Wichert Akkerman wrote:
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So I turned things around: if I state in my egg information that I
require another package that means I need to have that package
available and functional
On Friday 19 October 2007 21:17, Martijn Faassen wrote:
> Tres Seaver wrote:
> > I may not *want* the other package's ZCML to be loaded: some of its
> > policies may not be appropriate for my application.
+1. Happens to me all the time.
> Since this appears to be a rare case that is the except
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Martijn Faassen wrote:
> Tres Seaver wrote:
>> Wichert Akkerman wrote:
> [snip]
>>> So I turned things around: if I state in my egg information that I
>>> require another package that means I need to have that package
>>> available and functional. Whic
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Martijn Faassen wrote:
> Hey,
>
> Martin Aspeli wrote:
>> Fred Drake wrote:
> [snip]
For example, say you want to install oi.plum. You need to add the line
'oi.plum' twice - once under 'eggs' and once under 'zcml' in your
buildout.cfg.
Fred Drake wrote:
On 10/17/07, Martin Aspeli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Right - but you're building an application, and you're pretty
experienced with Zope. A lot of Plone users just want to install a
plug-in (a product), basically. Before, they just dropped it into a
It sounds like your conce
Tres Seaver wrote:
Wichert Akkerman wrote:
[snip]
So I turned things around: if I state in my egg information that I
require another package that means I need to have that package
available and functional. Which suggests that its zcml has to be loaded
before mine. And that is exactly what I am
Hey,
Martin Aspeli wrote:
Fred Drake wrote:
[snip]
For example, say you want to install oi.plum. You need to add the line
'oi.plum' twice - once under 'eggs' and once under 'zcml' in your
buildout.cfg. Forget the latter, and the package doesn't work properly
(or at all).
I actually really li
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Martin Aspeli wrote:
> Tres Seaver wrote:
>
>> I may not *want* the other package's ZCML to be loaded: some of its
>> policies may not be appropriate for my application. I think that the
>> "library" vs. "pluggable application" distinction is valid
On Oct 18, 2007, at 8:17 AM, Tres Seaver wrote:
I may not *want* the other package's ZCML to be loaded: some of its
policies may not be appropriate for my application. I think that the
"library" vs. "pluggable application" distinction is valid here:
maybe
you want to define an entry point in
Tres Seaver wrote:
I may not *want* the other package's ZCML to be loaded: some of its
policies may not be appropriate for my application. I think that the
"library" vs. "pluggable application" distinction is valid here: maybe
you want to define an entry point in the egg which a given pluggab
On Oct 17, 2007, at 8:04 PM, Ross Patterson wrote:
...
I'm new to eggs, but maybe both sides could be satisfied with an
approach like extra_requires?
Extras are evil. See other posts of mine for explanations of why.
You could list "oi.plum [zope.zcml]" when
you require oi.plum *and* its ZCM
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Wichert Akkerman wrote:
> Martin Aspeli wrote:
>> Fred Drake wrote:
>>
>>> On 10/17/07, Wichert Akkerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>
A common issue we are seeing is that we have eggs depending on each
other, but they still need to
Martin Aspeli wrote:
> Fred Drake wrote:
>
>> On 10/17/07, Wichert Akkerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>> A common issue we are seeing is that we have eggs depending on each
>>> other, but they still need to load the zcml from those dependencies
>>> somehow. As a temporary solution to p
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Wichert Akkerman wrote:
> A common issue we are seeing is that we have eggs depending on each
> other, but they still need to load the zcml from those dependencies
> somehow. As a temporary solution to play with the concept I added
> something simple t
On 10/17/07, Martin Aspeli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Right - but you're building an application, and you're pretty
> experienced with Zope. A lot of Plone users just want to install a
> plug-in (a product), basically. Before, they just dropped it into a
It sounds like your concerns center aroun
Martin Aspeli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Fred Drake wrote:
>> On 10/17/07, Martin Aspeli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> The main win, IMHO, is to avoid the requirement for people to install
>>> slugs for third party products. Slugs suck - they are confusing to
>>> explain and people forget them
Fred Drake wrote:
On 10/17/07, Martin Aspeli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
The main win, IMHO, is to avoid the requirement for people to install
slugs for third party products. Slugs suck - they are confusing to
explain and people forget them all the time. Buildout makes it a bit
easier, but it's s
On 10/17/07, Martin Aspeli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The main win, IMHO, is to avoid the requirement for people to install
> slugs for third party products. Slugs suck - they are confusing to
> explain and people forget them all the time. Buildout makes it a bit
> easier, but it's still not a te
Fred Drake wrote:
On 10/17/07, Wichert Akkerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
A common issue we are seeing is that we have eggs depending on each
other, but they still need to load the zcml from those dependencies
somehow. As a temporary solution to play with the concept I added
something simple to
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