Re: [ZWeb] Apache config for lists.zope.org/mail.zope.org fubar?
Does this have anything with the sudden onsplurt of spam via Zope mailing lists? ___ Zope-web maillist - Zope-web@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-web
[ZWeb] zope.org dns
Hi All, Summary of current status on DNS... I've just updated the zonedit contact details to point to: http://groups.google.com/group/zopeorg-dns This is a private, members only group and I've invited all relevant people to the group. If I've left anyone out, please let me know. If you've got an invite, please join up ;-) I'm tempted to email this zoneedit username and password to the google group so that it's not locked away in several people's mail accounts. How do people feel about this? Am I right in assuming that: - zope.org whois records are now correct and, nameserver wise, point to: Name Server:NS1.ZONEEDIT.COM Name Server:NS7.ZONEEDIT.COM I'll note that I currently see the old list, but I'm assuming this is a propogation issue and I just need to wait? - zonedit is going to be our only DNS host and all its records are currently correct, we're just waiting for them to propogate? cheers, Chris -- Simplistix - Content Management, Zope Python Consulting - http://www.simplistix.co.uk ___ Zope-web maillist - Zope-web@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-web
Re: [ZWeb] zope.org dns
Hi, Chris Withers wrote: Hi All, Summary of current status on DNS... I've just updated the zonedit contact details to point to: http://groups.google.com/group/zopeorg-dns This is a private, members only group and I've invited all relevant people to the group. If I've left anyone out, please let me know. If you've got an invite, please join up ;-) I'm tempted to email this zoneedit username and password to the google group so that it's not locked away in several people's mail accounts. How do people feel about this? Am I right in assuming that: - zope.org whois records are now correct and, nameserver wise, point to: Name Server:NS1.ZONEEDIT.COM Name Server:NS7.ZONEEDIT.COM I'll note that I currently see the old list, but I'm assuming this is a propogation issue and I just need to wait? For me, this morning DNS seems to be back to normal, the changes appeared in my machines and are effective. Thanks for getting back to normal to everyone who helped. Christian -- gocept gmbh co. kg - forsterstraße 29 - 06112 halle/saale - germany www.gocept.com - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - phone +49 345 122 9889 7 - fax +49 345 122 9889 1 - zope and plone consulting and development signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Zope-web maillist - Zope-web@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-web
Re: [ZWeb] Apache config for lists.zope.org/mail.zope.org fubar?
yep :-) Chris Lennart Regebro wrote: Does this have anything with the sudden onsplurt of spam via Zope mailing lists? ___ Zope-web maillist - Zope-web@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-web -- Simplistix - Content Management, Zope Python Consulting - http://www.simplistix.co.uk ___ Zope-web maillist - Zope-web@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-web
Re: [ZWeb] Apache config for lists.zope.org/mail.zope.org fubar?
Lennart Regebro wrote: On 10/13/06, Chris Withers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yep :-) Extra annoyiong since I have been trying to unsubscribe from the zope-list for a week. And failing. I don't have time to read that list just now... procmail's great, works for me on michael milne ;-) (and I believe several others have used the same trick on me in the past... *wry grinz*) Chris -- Simplistix - Content Management, Zope Python Consulting - http://www.simplistix.co.uk ___ Zope-web maillist - Zope-web@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-web
[ZWeb] statistical nonsense
Lennart Regebro said: Say that a server fails one day per month in average (which is way more than we really will have). One backup server located on anotehr continent then means that we will statistically have DNS outage only one day in 900. Thats one day every three years. Two backups located on different continents will give us a failure rate of one day per 27000 days. That's one day every seventy-fifth year. WHAT!?!? The internet hasn't even been around for seventy five years, and sites are down all the time. shut the fuck up. I hope you all curl up and die. I'm going to use TurboGears, since apparently noone in the Zope community will fucking talk to me anymore. You are the most childish fucks I have ever worked with. Way to show a guy thanks. ___ Zope-web maillist - Zope-web@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-web
Re: [ZWeb] statistical nonsense
Justizin wrote: I hope you all curl up and die. I'm going to use TurboGears, since apparently noone in the Zope community will fucking talk to me anymore. I'm sure you will be sorely missed ;-) Seriously, you seemed like a well meaning, fairly clued up, if slightly arrogant guy when you offered to help, but these tirades of abuse are making you look like a clown - and I should know; Google can testify to several of my own clownish tirades... Justin, good luck with TurboGears, I hope none too many of your customers stumble across your postings here... Chris -- Simplistix - Content Management, Zope Python Consulting - http://www.simplistix.co.uk ___ Zope-web maillist - Zope-web@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-web
Re: [ZWeb] statistical nonsense
On 10/13/06, Chris Withers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Justizin wrote: I hope you all curl up and die. I'm going to use TurboGears, since apparently noone in the Zope community will fucking talk to me anymore. I'm sure you will be sorely missed ;-) Seriously, you seemed like a well meaning, fairly clued up, if slightly arrogant guy when you offered to help, but these tirades of abuse are making you look like a clown - and I should know; Google can testify to several of my own clownish tirades... I am the one being abused here. I offered over 20 hours of my time as a volunteer and in exchange my name has been drug through the mud. FUCK YOU. Arrogant? It's easy to call anyone arrogant who says: Please, trust me, I know what I'm talking about, we should be careful to avoid a problem. The fact is that you guys are continually accusing me of making a mistake that was not really part of the problem. You want a post-mortem? here it is: http://justizin.blogspot.com/2006/10/zopeorg-dns-post-mortem.html Justin, good luck with TurboGears, I hope none too many of your customers stumble across your postings here... My customers work with me because of my track record. They seek my sort of help. Heck, at my age, I could just go join a fucking band instead of spending most of my time volunteering to work with open-source software on behalf of non-profit foundations. I'll probably show this discussion to some of my customers when they ask me to rush on something. I am not afraid to be myself. Whatever, dude. This is the most disgusting display I've ever seen to someone who has volunteered to help with something complex. You can all rot in hell and die. I hope my customers will see that, while I went out of my way to help a community which we depend on, I did not hang onto this responsibility so tightly that I will let their projects fall on the floor. In fact, I will talk to the Association for Computing Machinery IS team about this entire incident as an example of a community who needs our resources, but will never accept them. -- Justizin, Independent Interactivity Architect ACM SIGGRAPH SysMgr, Reporter http://www.siggraph.org/ ___ Zope-web maillist - Zope-web@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-web
Re: [ZWeb] zope.org dns
Christian Theune wrote: ... Thanks for getting back to normal to everyone who helped. +sys.maxint -- Jim Fulton mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Python Powered! CTO (540) 361-1714http://www.python.org Zope Corporation http://www.zope.com http://www.zope.org ___ Zope-web maillist - Zope-web@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-web
Re: [ZWeb] statistical nonsense
Justizin wrote: Heck, at my age, I could just go join a fucking band instead of spending most of my time volunteering to work with open-source software on behalf of non-profit foundations. http://www.bash.org/?14207 ;-) Chris -- Simplistix - Content Management, Zope Python Consulting - http://www.simplistix.co.uk ___ Zope-web maillist - Zope-web@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-web
Re: [ZWeb] Apache config for lists.zope.org/mail.zope.org fubar?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 13 Oct 2006, at 03:06, Lennart Regebro wrote: Does this have anything with the sudden onsplurt of spam via Zope mailing lists? No. Unless Apache sends mail nowadays... The Mailman thing was an *unrelated* problem. jens -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (Darwin) iD8DBQFFL4pVRAx5nvEhZLIRAsX8AJsEw+JBrfc70KSgiqNd696yPmk5cQCaA+sp d9ytVIkvgcPTMREzQEkTWdw= =g+ec -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Zope-web maillist - Zope-web@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-web
Re: [ZWeb] Apache config for lists.zope.org/mail.zope.org fubar?
On Oct 13, 2006, at 8:45 AM, Jens Vagelpohl wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 13 Oct 2006, at 03:06, Lennart Regebro wrote: Does this have anything with the sudden onsplurt of spam via Zope mailing lists? No. Unless Apache sends mail nowadays... The Mailman thing was an *unrelated* problem. Actually, it was sort of tangentially related. Mailman's delivery got wedged because I changed its permissions, in the process of setting Andrew up, in a way I thought would be non-problematic and which turned out not to be, in the process of un-wedging its legitimate mail delivery, a bunch of spam was sent out as well. That was my mistake and it shouldn't happen again. --Dave Systems Administrator Zope Corp. 540-361-1722 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Zope-web maillist - Zope-web@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-web
Re: [ZWeb] zope.org dns
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am I right in assuming that: - zope.org whois records are now correct and, nameserver wise, point to: Name Server:NS1.ZONEEDIT.COM Name Server:NS7.ZONEEDIT.COM I'll note that I currently see the old list, but I'm assuming this is a propogation issue and I just need to wait? Go to http://www.networksolutions.com/whois/index.jsp to find out. The changes Rob said he made yesterday are not showing yet. I don't know how long it takes for that kind of change to go through. Once those changes are visible only ns1/ns7.zoneedit.com will show. - zonedit is going to be our only DNS host and all its records are currently correct, we're just waiting for them to propogate? We're mainly waiting for the registrar changes to go through because 3 out of 5 DNS servers that are part of the old records either send out incorrect data (ns.qutang.net) or they don't know records like foundation.zope.org (ns2.zope.com, ns3.zope.com, ns.qutang.net). jens -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (Darwin) iD8DBQFFL45oRAx5nvEhZLIRArxQAKCJQbyyTPilVpaTD/eWzAgL7N7PBwCfU6Bn jc7fByvPyqEHxPamaUL9Ayw= =QEdw -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Zope-web maillist - Zope-web@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-web
[ZWeb] Please stop the statistical nonsense and it was fun :) threads.
These threads have gone far enough. Let's stop. I've banned Justizin from this list for his totally inappropriate language. We've had enough fun. Let's get on with making positive progress. Jim -- Jim Fulton mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Python Powered! CTO (540) 361-1714http://www.python.org Zope Corporation http://www.zope.com http://www.zope.org ___ Zope-web maillist - Zope-web@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-web
Re: [ZWeb] Apache config for lists.zope.org/mail.zope.org fubar?
Not exactly. An Apache directive fubar doesn't cause spam making it through mailman. Andrew On 10/13/06 4:15 AM, Chris Withers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yep :-) Chris Lennart Regebro wrote: Does this have anything with the sudden onsplurt of spam via Zope mailing lists? ___ Zope-web maillist - Zope-web@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-web ___ Zope-web maillist - Zope-web@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-web
Re: [ZWeb] zope.org dns
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 13 Oct 2006, at 09:25, David Lawson wrote: Speaking of this, since only the ZoneEdit servers are going to be listed as authoritative for this zone, once the changes propagate, shall we just shut down serving DNS for zope.org from the zope.com DNS servers? Or would you prefer that we remain as a slave and we just work out the NOTIFY nonsense later? Apparently zoneedit does not do NOTIFY - IMHO a huge drawback that necessitates scripting or manual pulling of data. Once the WHOIS record changes have propagated the zope.com servers can basically go away, but please leave them on until then. Actually, if you have a second, could you add a record for foundation.zope.org (63.240.213.174) or pull down the current data from zoneedit and feed it into ns2/ns3.zope.com? jens -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (Darwin) iD8DBQFFL5ZtRAx5nvEhZLIRAl9TAJ4sfTO0YguPiyxd2zATnsctBN70bACfWM5K MOik7kyyE6j22jryh6q8JwU= =e9Lj -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Zope-web maillist - Zope-web@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-web
Re: [ZWeb] Apache config for lists.zope.org/mail.zope.org fubar?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 13 Oct 2006, at 08:34, Andrew Sawyers wrote: Not exactly. An Apache directive fubar doesn't cause spam making it through mailman. Dave already said the way he unwedged Mailman may have something to do with the spam, let's drop it, it all works now. jens -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (Darwin) iD8DBQFFL5cBRAx5nvEhZLIRAj6BAKCsuUKGJGlm2u7Mjk9PH5AKOq1i4ACeIbhW kd2fC9W470Zzp0ZYwyhy2D0= =Vfkf -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Zope-web maillist - Zope-web@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-web
Re: [ZWeb] Foundation Site
Andrew Sawyers wrote: See: foundation.zope.org This is using Darryl's magic. It was painful to get such a beast of RH 9 working (with 2 arms tied behind my back) but we did it. Thanks Darryl and David from ZC. I will need to speak with someone about getting the necessary pieces from Darryl's end into svn so we can have the whole ball of wax in svn. Andrew Sawyers cool :) Until someone answers Baiju about a place to report issues, I'd like to give a feedback about the menu from this page: http://foundation.zope.org/members/ looking at the menu, I think that it will be more readable if we change all labels from members submenu Zope Foundation Strategic Developer Members - Strategic Developer Members Zope Foundation Associate Members - Associate Members etc.. We all know it's the members list for ZF so we can cut the ZF header I think. to get a lighter, more readable menu, with one line entries Tarek ___ Zope-web maillist - Zope-web@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-web ___ Zope-web maillist - Zope-web@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-web
Re: [ZWeb] zope.org dns
Jim Fulton wrote: Chris Withers wrote: ... I'm tempted to email this zoneedit username and password to the google group so that it's not locked away in several people's mail accounts. How do people feel about this? It makes me feel uncomfortable. :) No worries, that's fine, I think enough people have the zoneedit details to be safe. If you'd like them too, just lemme know and I'll forward 'em on... Chris -- Simplistix - Content Management, Zope Python Consulting - http://www.simplistix.co.uk ___ Zope-web maillist - Zope-web@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-web
Re: [ZWeb] re: it was fun :)
Please stop this thread. Jim -- Jim Fulton mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Python Powered! CTO (540) 361-1714http://www.python.org Zope Corporation http://www.zope.com http://www.zope.org ___ Zope-web maillist - Zope-web@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-web
Re: [ZWeb] Foundation Site
Hurrah! Great work all. ___ Zope-web maillist - Zope-web@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-web
Re: [ZWeb] Zone Edit nameserver Offerings FYI
So what's the price tag on the deal? Andrew Sawyers wrote: Zone Edit offers DNS services on different continents for a small fee. We can easily support our requirements with little effort from these folks: ZoneEdit's basic service offers a pair of DNS servers with 24x7 monitoring and recovery on each server. Each server is located on a distinct and separately maintained network with a 99.9% uptime. With DNS, if any one server goes down, the other servers are used. Therefore, each nameserver you add to your domain greatly reduces the odds of an outage. For your most important domains, we highly reccomend using 3 or 4 DNS servers. We have never had a 3 server outage. We offer a 100% uptime guarantee for domains with four ZoneEdit nameservers. If you are already a ZoneEdit customer, you can log in, click on your most important domain, click Advanced, click Nameservers, and click Purchase an Extra Backup Nameserver. You can then choose the country and location of the new nameserver. If you are not using ZoneEdit's DNS, you can sign up to use our secondary DNS service. Our servers will be automatically synchronized with your primary servers, and are added to your domain as DNS backups. We offer up to 8 managed DNS networks in the US, Canada, Europe, and Australia. For your most important domains, use ZoneEdit's backup DNS. -- gocept gmbh co. kg - forsterstraße 29 - 06112 halle/saale - germany www.gocept.com - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - phone +49 345 122 9889 7 - fax +49 345 122 9889 1 - zope and plone consulting and development signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Zope-web maillist - Zope-web@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-web
Re: [ZWeb] Zone Edit nameserver Offerings FYI
$10.95 a year, for ea. additional one you want Andrew On 10/13/06 12:09 PM, Christian Theune [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So what's the price tag on the deal? Andrew Sawyers wrote: Zone Edit offers DNS services on different continents for a small fee. We can easily support our requirements with little effort from these folks: ZoneEdit's basic service offers a pair of DNS servers with 24x7 monitoring and recovery on each server. Each server is located on a distinct and separately maintained network with a 99.9% uptime. With DNS, if any one server goes down, the other servers are used. Therefore, each nameserver you add to your domain greatly reduces the odds of an outage. For your most important domains, we highly reccomend using 3 or 4 DNS servers. We have never had a 3 server outage. We offer a 100% uptime guarantee for domains with four ZoneEdit nameservers. If you are already a ZoneEdit customer, you can log in, click on your most important domain, click Advanced, click Nameservers, and click Purchase an Extra Backup Nameserver. You can then choose the country and location of the new nameserver. If you are not using ZoneEdit's DNS, you can sign up to use our secondary DNS service. Our servers will be automatically synchronized with your primary servers, and are added to your domain as DNS backups. We offer up to 8 managed DNS networks in the US, Canada, Europe, and Australia. For your most important domains, use ZoneEdit's backup DNS. ___ Zope-web maillist - Zope-web@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-web
Re: [ZWeb] Foundation Site
Hi,great work!One correction, though. The membership agreement PDF states the associate member fee is $295, while http://foundation.zope.org/members/associate_members.html says the fee is only $95.Carlos de la GuardiaOn 10/12/06, Andrew Sawyers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: See:foundation.zope.orgThis is using Darryl's magic.It was painful to get such a beast of RH 9 working (with 2 arms tied behind my back) but we did it.Thanks Darryl andDavid from ZC.I will need to speak with someone about getting the necessary pieces fromDarryl's end into svn so we can have the whole ball of wax in svn. Andrew Sawyers___Zope-web maillist-Zope-web@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-web ___ Zope-web maillist - Zope-web@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-web
Re: [ZWeb] Foundation Site
--On 13. Oktober 2006 13:10:28 -0500 Carlos de la Guardia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, great work! One correction, though. The membership agreement PDF states the associate member fee is $295, while http://foundation.zope.org/members/associate_members.html says the fee is only $95. http://foundation.zope.org/members/committer_members.html The latest Docutils fixes strike back :-) -aj pgp4VhW568dpI.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Zope-web maillist - Zope-web@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-web
