Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: Zope 3 lacks Ajax capability?

2006-05-16 Thread Tarek Ziadé
Benji York wrote: Balazs Ree wrote: However there is nothing that would keep away a server to be aware of currently open pages and be able to send notifications to them. This would also require server support for registering open connections. This pattern might even turn out to be so

Re: [Zope3-dev] Zope 3 lacks Ajax capability?

2006-05-15 Thread Tarek Ziadé
Jeff Rush wrote: Just checking if I'm missing something -- with the removal of HTTP streaming/chunking in 3.2, this means that the async bi-directional persistent socket communications associated with Ajax is NOT possible at this time? That a request/response must quickly run to completion

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: Google SoC Project

2006-05-12 Thread Tarek Ziadé
Jim Fulton wrote: out of curiosity, what are the things that make a reload not robust ? is it just a matter of dependencies or it's deeper ? I was hoping that someone else would answer this directly. :) Shane did largely answer it, but I'll try to be more direct and concise: When you

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: Google SoC Project

2006-05-09 Thread Tarek Ziadé
Jim Fulton wrote: - Look at opprtunities for limited robust reload. Perhaps we could define reloadable modules, especially for defining adapters, with restrictions on their definitions and exports in a way that allows robust reload. This would probably be based on the

[Zope3-dev] Event suscribing and permissions

2006-05-09 Thread Tarek Ziadé
Hello, it looks like 'provides' is mandatory for the 'subscriber' directive if I need to set a permission. If I want to add a permission on a simple handler, it won't work: No go: ... subscriber ... handler=my_handler ... for=IMyEvent ... permission=InYourDreams

[Zope3-dev] Re: SVN: Zope3/trunk/src/zope/app/file/browser/ fixed the way absolute_url is retrieved in ImageData.tag()

2006-04-10 Thread Tarek Ziadé
Philipp von Weitershausen wrote: Tarek Ziadé wrote: Modified: Zope3/trunk/src/zope/app/file/browser/tests/test_imagedata.py === --- Zope3/trunk/src/zope/app/file/browser/tests/test_imagedata.py 2006-04-09 21:31:11 UTC (rev

Re: [Zope3-dev] Your best Zope (3) tricks

2006-04-09 Thread Tarek Ziadé
Christian Theune wrote: Hi, the DZUG is preparing a fair booth on the Linux Tag and we had the idea of a marketing Zope a bit away from the standard. I'll be doing a presentation showing off Zope 3 techniques as Dozen Dirty Tricks (even though they might not be dirty in the real sense of the

Re: [Zope3-dev] Automated compatibility tests

2006-02-08 Thread Tarek Ziadé
Max M wrote: Being a long time Product developer for Zope 2, I constantly have a big problem with checking compatibility for my products with different Python-Zope-Plone-Product combinations. It is also impossible to guess from the Products on zope.org and Plone.org which versions works

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: Automated compatibility tests

2006-02-08 Thread Tarek Ziadé
Max M wrote: Tarek Ziadé wrote: I think buildbot fills this need very well, like http://buildbot.zope.org/ or http://buildbot.nuxeo.org/ I was aware of http://buildbot.zope.org/ but I though it was an internally developed tool. Nope, it's a python product. python-dev even use it too

Re: [Zope3-dev] Automated compatibility tests

2006-02-08 Thread Tarek Ziadé
Chris Withers wrote: Tarek Ziadé wrote: Or am I the only one seing this as a problem that should be automated? I think buildbot fills this need very well, like http://buildbot.zope.org/ or http://buildbot.nuxeo.org/ Nah, Max is after something different, and I agree with him

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: Do we really want Zope 3 marketing talk isolated on zope-web?

2006-02-08 Thread Tarek Ziadé
Michael Haubenwallner wrote: Gary Poster wrote: I'm not sure shuffling the hype and Zope 3 marketing conversations to zope-web is a good idea. I'm not trying to fix zope.org (eek), and I'm not trying to improve the Zope 2 image (though that would be nice too). I, and I think others,

Re: [Zope3-Users] Zope 3 Marketing Competition? (was Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: Selecting a code name)

2006-02-07 Thread Tarek Ziadé
Martijn Faassen wrote: Max M wrote: Martijn Faassen wrote: Alternatively, we could use our energy to actually work together on a new website instead of competing. There's a zope-web mailing list, after all, so go and talk there. This would have my preference. If you want to fix the Zope

[Zope3-dev] small proposal: a monitor api on live requests

2006-01-21 Thread Tarek Ziadé
are involved (like zasync) Also I wouldn't mind having a 'cancel' button on my form, but this is another chapter :) Any thoughts on this ? Tarek -- Tarek Ziadé | Nuxeo RD (Paris, France) CPS Plateform : http://www.cps-project.org mail: tziade at nuxeo.com | tel: +33 (0) 6 30 37 02 63 You

Re: [Zope3-dev] Ajax in Zope 3

2006-01-06 Thread Tarek Ziadé
Gary Poster wrote: On Dec 6, 2005, at 5:35 PM, Tarek Ziadé wrote: Gary Poster wrote: ... I have old proposals for this, and some revisions of them on the basis of conversations with Jim, Fred, Stephan, and Benji. ... ... I am looking forward for the proposal revision :) Just

[Zope3-dev] Re: Performance Testing

2005-10-13 Thread Tarek Ziadé
be able to help implement). I have started the proposal here: http://www.zope.org/Wikis/DevSite/Projects/ComponentArchitecture/PerformanceRegressionTool Tarek. -- Tarek Ziadé | Nuxeo RD (Paris, France) CPS Plateform : http://www.cps-project.org mail: tziade at nuxeo.com | tel: +33 (0) 6 30 37

Re: [Zope3-dev] Performance Testing

2005-10-13 Thread Tarek Ziadé
could somehow size what's beeing pickled, since it's just a buffer. we could therefore measure the size of what's beeing serialized in a test. that's a measure, but i wonder if it can tell something. Tarek -- Tarek Ziadé | Nuxeo RD (Paris, France) CPS Plateform : http://www.cps-project.org mail

Re: [Zope3-dev] Performance Testing

2005-10-13 Thread Tarek Ziadé
Chris Withers wrote: Tarek Ziadé wrote: I think the only reliable way is to write a new python debugger. What does pdb have to do with it? Sorry i mistyped, i meant a python debug build, to get all objects instances Tarek ___ Zope3-dev mailing

[Zope3-dev] Re: Performance Testing

2005-10-13 Thread Tarek Ziadé
Benji York wrote: Tarek Ziadé wrote: http://www.zope.org/Wikis/DevSite/Projects/ComponentArchitecture/PerformanceRegressionTool The unit test decorator looks good; I might prefer a different name than timedtest, but because I don't write old-style unit tests I'm just -0. The fact

[Zope3-dev] Re: Performance Testing

2005-10-12 Thread Tarek Ziadé
Benji York wrote: Tarek has started some very interesting work on adding performance testing to the Zope 3 testing infrastructure and it so happens that Jim and I were discussing something very similar last week, so I'd like to suggest some functionality we might want to have (which I should

[Zope3-dev] Performance regression test, (was: [Zope3-checkins] ... added a pystone performance unit tester)

2005-10-11 Thread Tarek Ziadé
Jim Fulton wrote: [cut] Your enhancements to check run time look very interesting, but I think they ought to be proposed and discussed. Please revert this change and then lets discuss what we want. Done. So, the main idea of the work we did last week on this topic was to provide an easy