[Zope3-dev] Re: Some thoughts on Zope 3, Zope 3 applications, and Zope 3 instances

2007-01-09 Thread whit
As a non-developer observer, I'm +1 with Jim's discussion. Martin, you're right that developer influx should be the key goal, and that (a) simpler entry points like Grok and (b) killer apps are the way to get to that goal. and I think things like grok are the natural progression from "drink

[Zope3-dev] Re: Grok, CherryPy, WSGI and Zope 3

2006-12-01 Thread whit
Martijn Faassen wrote: Hey, I've recently written a few blog entries that may be of interest here too. First an introduction about the Grok project: http://faassen.n--tree.net/blog/view/weblog/2006/11/09/0 Next, what I wrote tonight, which is about my experiments with Grok, Zope 3, WSGI and

[Zope3-dev] Re: adapter registration question

2006-11-13 Thread whit
Tres Seaver wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Philipp von Weitershausen wrote: Tres Seaver wrote: Thnk of cataloguing / indexing use cases: adapting the catalogued object to a string value (or tuple, or whatever) using named adapters is a very "natural" way to make inde

[Zope3-dev] Re: layers can't be new style classes?

2006-10-17 Thread whit
Chris Withers wrote: Jim Fulton wrote: I may have spoken too soon. It looks like there is code to handle the object-as-base case in the test runner, at least on the trunk. Perhaps the version used by zope3 doesn't handle this case, or perhaps there's a bug that needs to be pursued. That'd exp

[Zope3-dev] reloading (was Google SoC Project)

2006-05-09 Thread whit
I'm really not interested in a reload faclity, like the one commonly used in Zope 2, that is not robust. I've wasted too many hours helping people debug problems that were caused by reload misshaps. understood. perhaps intelligently disabling such facilities in Zope 2 might be wise since th

[Zope3-dev] Re: Google SoC Project

2006-05-08 Thread whit
Adam Groszer wrote: I personally am tired of restarting z3 each time I made an error even if it is just one char mistype. I'm doing now a wx based app, and the problem is the same... made an error, restart, click 10 times... It would be also a way to have a developer version which might run slow

[Zope3-dev] Re: what is ZCML?

2006-04-17 Thread whit
Shane Hathaway wrote: Sidnei da Silva wrote: On Mon, Mar 13, 2006 at 02:16:17PM -0700, Jeff Shell wrote: | And I think it's | very important for the Python code to say what it does, so when I come | back to a module five months later I'm not staring at MyFactory going | "yeah, but what is it?"

[Zope3-dev] Re: [Zope] Re: The Zope Software Certification Program and Common Repository Proposal

2006-02-21 Thread whit
Philipp von Weitershausen wrote: Andrew Milton wrote: +---[ Philipp von Weitershausen ]-- | | Handing over ownership to the ZF and therefore having signed a | Contributor Agreement are the terms of the svn.zope.org repository, just | like that code is to be made ZPL. T

[Zope3-dev] Re: The Zope Software Certification Program and Common Repository Proposal

2006-02-21 Thread whit
Martin Aspeli wrote: On Mon, 20 Feb 2006 21:28:09 -, Stephan Richter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I have spent the last two weeks working on a proposal that defines a Zope Software Certification Program (ZSCP) and a Common Repository that implements this process. The proposal is attached to

[Zope3-dev] Re: Zope 3 web root

2006-02-17 Thread whit
Paul Winkler wrote: On Thu, Feb 16, 2006 at 02:16:05AM -0700, Jeff Shell wrote: I think that Zope 2 suffered heavily from the "too many ways to do it" when it came to ways of doing development, and there were gulfs between each style. Each style had its plusses too. ZClasses certainly had an app

[Zope3-dev] Re: Zope 3 web root

2006-02-16 Thread whit
Chris McDonough wrote: On Feb 15, 2006, at 11:52 PM, Jeff Shell wrote: A Zope that was basically zope.publisher, zope.component, zope.interface, zope.schema, and tal/tales (and maybe 'transaction') would be ideal. +1 I guess this is all kindof rambling. I just don't see any benefit to me.