Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: System python for *development*? (Was: 3.3.0 tag broken by zc.catalog eggs?)

2007-06-27 Thread David Pratt
Hi. I've tended to use system python against some better advice, but use but leave it clean since I am using buildouts. This really has had more to do with the convenience of using the system package tools for upgrading such as FreeBSD ports system. I've also been experimenting with CentOS and

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: System python for *development*? (Was: 3.3.0 tag broken by zc.catalog eggs?)

2007-06-27 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 27. Juni 2007 11:36:23 -0300 David Pratt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi. I've tended to use system python against some better advice, but use but leave it clean since I am using buildouts. This really has had more to do with the convenience of using the system package tools for upgrading

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: System python for *development*? (Was: 3.3.0 tag broken by zc.catalog eggs?)

2007-05-23 Thread Brian Sutherland
On Wed, May 23, 2007 at 09:37:33AM +0200, Philipp von Weitershausen wrote: Marius Gedminas wrote: On Mon, May 21, 2007 at 10:44:47AM -0400, Jim Fulton wrote: On May 21, 2007, at 1:39 AM, Martijn Pieters wrote: Come again? Using the system python when developing has always been fine;

[Zope3-dev] Re: System python for *development*? (Was: 3.3.0 tag broken by zc.catalog eggs?)

2007-05-22 Thread Tres Seaver
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Marius Gedminas wrote: On Mon, May 21, 2007 at 12:21:42PM -0400, Tres Seaver wrote: Reinoud van Leeuwen wrote: On Mon, May 21, 2007 at 10:39:22AM -0400, Fred Drake wrote: As a developer it might be a good idea to have different installed pythons

[Zope3-dev] Re: System python for *development*? (Was: 3.3.0 tag broken by zc.catalog eggs?)

2007-05-22 Thread Martijn Faassen
Marius Gedminas wrote: [snip the problems with system pythons] seem to be minor inconveniences rather than show-stoppers to me. I'd love to hear real horror stories. Not sure whether this counts as a horror story, but... Recently I upgraded my desktop to Ubuntu Feisty. So I was running this

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: System python for *development*? (Was: 3.3.0 tag broken by zc.catalog eggs?)

2007-05-22 Thread Jim Fulton
On May 22, 2007, at 9:20 AM, Martijn Faassen wrote: ... I was rather annoyed at the whole situation. I switched to a hand- compiled python right away. Better late than never. :) Jim -- Jim Fulton mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Python Powered! CTO

[Zope3-dev] Re: System python for *development*? (Was: 3.3.0 tag broken by zc.catalog eggs?)

2007-05-21 Thread Christian Zagrodnick
On 2007-05-21 07:39:57 +0200, Martijn Pieters [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: [...] However, it appears that the switch to eggs requires additional precautions to avoid your python system to be 'polluted' with various Zope3 packages. Perhaps we should recommend using workingenv for development work

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: System python for *development*? (Was: 3.3.0 tag broken by zc.catalog eggs?)

2007-05-21 Thread Darryl Cousins
Hi, On Mon, 2007-05-21 at 08:12 +0200, Christian Zagrodnick wrote: On 2007-05-21 07:39:57 +0200, Martijn Pieters [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: [...] However, it appears that the switch to eggs requires additional precautions to avoid your python system to be 'polluted' with various

[Zope3-dev] Re: System python for *development*? (Was: 3.3.0 tag broken by zc.catalog eggs?)

2007-05-21 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
Martijn Pieters wrote: On 5/21/07, Gary Poster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: FWIW, I know zc.catalog but I'm certainly not an egg expert. But this message looks like you are maybe sharing a Python for various installations. Are you maybe using your system Python? Generally not advised for

[Zope3-dev] Re: System python for *development*? (Was: 3.3.0 tag broken by zc.catalog eggs?)

2007-05-21 Thread Gary Poster
On May 21, 2007, at 9:20 AM, Philipp von Weitershausen wrote: Martijn Pieters wrote: On 5/21/07, Gary Poster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: FWIW, I know zc.catalog but I'm certainly not an egg expert. But this message looks like you are maybe sharing a Python for various installations. Are you

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: System python for *development*? (Was: 3.3.0 tag broken by zc.catalog eggs?)

2007-05-21 Thread Fred Drake
On 5/21/07, Gary Poster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I then feel comfortable sharing the dev Python across builds because I know it is clean. The stuff that gets installed in the system Python's is usually not an issue for Zope applications (I've never had a Zope-related issue with those things),

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: System python for *development*? (Was: 3.3.0 tag broken by zc.catalog eggs?)

2007-05-21 Thread Reinoud van Leeuwen
On Mon, May 21, 2007 at 10:39:22AM -0400, Fred Drake wrote: On 5/21/07, Gary Poster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I then feel comfortable sharing the dev Python across builds because I know it is clean. The stuff that gets installed in the system Python's is usually not an issue for Zope

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: System python for *development*? (Was: 3.3.0 tag broken by zc.catalog eggs?)

2007-05-21 Thread Fred Drake
On 5/21/07, Reinoud van Leeuwen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As a developer it might be a good idea to have different installed pythons in different environments to be sure that some modules (or python itself) meet different requirements. But as system maintainer I like to keep things simple. I do

[Zope3-dev] Re: System python for *development*? (Was: 3.3.0 tag broken by zc.catalog eggs?)

2007-05-21 Thread Tres Seaver
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jim Fulton wrote: On May 21, 2007, at 1:39 AM, Martijn Pieters wrote: On 5/21/07, Gary Poster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: FWIW, I know zc.catalog but I'm certainly not an egg expert. But this message looks like you are maybe sharing a Python for

[Zope3-dev] Re: System python for *development*? (Was: 3.3.0 tag broken by zc.catalog eggs?)

2007-05-21 Thread Max M
Philipp von Weitershausen skrev: Martijn Pieters wrote: On 5/21/07, Gary Poster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: FWIW, I know zc.catalog but I'm certainly not an egg expert. But this message looks like you are maybe sharing a Python for various installations. Are you maybe using your system Python?