Re: [Zope3-dev] Release schedule and deprecation decisions

2006-02-06 Thread Martijn Faassen
Jim Fulton wrote: A while ago, we had some discussion on when to make releases and how long to support deprecated features. The discussion has died down so I'll summarize what I think the conclusions were: - We'll move releases up one month to may and November from June and December. This

Re: [Zope3-dev] Nine new ZC Zope 3 packages

2006-02-06 Thread Stephan Richter
On Monday 06 February 2006 06:13, Martijn Faassen wrote: Is this stuff intended to end up in the zope core eventually? If so, what steps will need to be taken? I imagine this also ties into the eggs story, but the question on the zope core perhaps still stands - what would be a dependency of

Re: [Zope3-dev] Nine new ZC Zope 3 packages

2006-02-06 Thread Benji York
Stephan Richter wrote: On Monday 06 February 2006 06:13, Martijn Faassen wrote: Is this stuff intended to end up in the zope core eventually? If so, what steps will need to be taken? In the coming weeks I am going to be involved in this sort of discussion hopefully on this and the plone-dev

Re: [Zope3-dev] Nine new ZC Zope 3 packages

2006-02-06 Thread Martijn Faassen
Chris McDonough wrote: BTW, how impending is impending? Days, weeks, months? Anybody know? On Feb 6, 2006, at 8:40 AM, Benji York wrote: My first thought is to consider how the impending charter of the Zope Foundation influences things. Good question. My response to this would be two

Re: [Zope3-dev] Nine new ZC Zope 3 packages

2006-02-06 Thread Stephan Richter
On Monday 06 February 2006 09:57, Martijn Faassen wrote: Chris McDonough wrote: BTW, how impending is impending?  Days, weeks, months?  Anybody know? On Feb 6, 2006, at 8:40 AM, Benji York wrote: My first thought is to consider how the impending charter of the  Zope Foundation

RE: [Zope3-dev] zope.schema: defaults for non-immutables... questions

2006-02-06 Thread Shaun Cutts
I'll keep getting Jim's agreement or putting up a proposal in mind. As I start to think of how to extend it, I have some general question about zope.schema. I should note that I am not currently a zope user proper (though I will be soon), but was referred to the zope.interface package via

Re: [Zope3-dev] Selecting a code name

2006-02-06 Thread Shane Hathaway
Stephan Richter wrote: On Friday 03 February 2006 12:14, Shane Hathaway wrote: Andreas Zeidler wrote: On Fri, Feb 03 17:24, Encolpe Degoute [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Zope 3 / Revolution ? well, how about Zope3, Reloaded for all the matrix fans out there? :) The idea of release code

Re: [Zope3-dev] Selecting a code name

2006-02-06 Thread Gary Poster
On Feb 6, 2006, at 2:31 PM, Paul Winkler wrote: On Mon, Feb 06, 2006 at 01:53:29PM -0500, Benji York wrote: Shane Hathaway wrote: Stephan Richter wrote: Okay, I am giving in on this. There is a three step process that will have to be fullfilled to assign a codename to the Zope 3.3

Re: [Zope3-dev] Nine new ZC Zope 3 packages

2006-02-06 Thread Gary Poster
(apologies to Martijn and Stephan for repeating this email: zope.org rejected my previous emails) On Feb 6, 2006, at 6:51 AM, Martijn Faassen wrote: Stephan Richter wrote: On Monday 06 February 2006 06:13, Martijn Faassen wrote: Is this stuff intended to end up in the zope core

Re: [Zope3-dev] Nine new ZC Zope 3 packages

2006-02-06 Thread Gary Poster
(Apologies to Martijn for the dupe; again, zope.org rejected my previous mail) On Feb 6, 2006, at 6:13 AM, Martijn Faassen wrote: Gary Poster wrote: [snip lots of cool stuff] Great, more stuff to play with! :) Just saw zope.file; this begs to be combined with hurry.file's smart upload

[Zope3-dev] Re: [Zope3-Users] Re: Re: Please Guido, pick me, pick me!

2006-02-06 Thread Gary Poster
(...sigh...apologies to Stephan...) On Feb 6, 2006, at 6:35 AM, Stephan Richter wrote: On Monday 06 February 2006 01:15, Brad Allen wrote: By new website, do you mean a Zope 3 advocacy site, or a general documentation site? Making a separate site for advocacy seems like a no-brainer (ala

Re: [Zope3-dev] Selecting a code name

2006-02-06 Thread Shane Hathaway
Gary Poster wrote: Me too. Maybe even a +(0x1). Zope 3: Revolution, Zope 3: Renaissance, and Zope 3: Rebirth were my favorites of the bunch. :-) Well, a new name for Zope 3 sounded like such a bad idea that it didn't even occur to me that someone would suggest it. We'd have to live with

Re: [Zope3-dev] Selecting a code name

2006-02-06 Thread Gary Poster
On Feb 6, 2006, at 3:26 PM, Shane Hathaway wrote: Gary Poster wrote: Me too. Maybe even a +(0x1). Zope 3: Revolution, Zope 3: Renaissance, and Zope 3: Rebirth were my favorites of the bunch. :-) Well, a new name for Zope 3 sounded like such a bad idea that it didn't even occur to me

[Zope3-dev] Re: Selecting a code name

2006-02-06 Thread Martin Aspeli
On Mon, 06 Feb 2006 17:27:43 -, Shane Hathaway [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Stephan Richter wrote: On Friday 03 February 2006 12:14, Shane Hathaway wrote: Andreas Zeidler wrote: On Fri, Feb 03 17:24, Encolpe Degoute [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Zope 3 / Revolution ? well, how about

[Zope3-dev] Broken homefolder tests

2006-02-06 Thread Roger Ineichen
Hi Florian, and other unittest gurus? The README.txt test in zope.app.homefolder is failing (trunk). This happens because the zope.app.file.file.File doesn't implement IAttributeAnnotatable in the test setup. The bad thing about this is, that the tests are running if you run all tests at once.

RE: [Zope3-dev] Nine new ZC Zope 3 packages

2006-02-06 Thread Roger Ineichen
Hi Gary [...] If desired. Pretty sure that zope.locking, zope.file (once blob support is in), and zope.mimetype ought to go in the core. we have a zope.html that we'll get out soonish too (based in some TIKS integration of FCKeditor--thanks Roger!) that we expect to be in the

[Zope3-dev] Re: Nine new ZC Zope 3 packages

2006-02-06 Thread Mikhail Kashkin
IMHO, Zope 3 repository can be much smarter than Plone or other. I think it is possible to generate some interactive documentation based on ++apidoc++ mechanics and publish it in Product area on future zope3.org. Stephan Richter wrote: On Monday 06 February 2006 06:13, Martijn Faassen wrote:

[Zope3-dev] Re: ZCML bad ;-)

2006-02-06 Thread Mikhail Kashkin
Shane Hathaway wrote: Philipp von Weitershausen wrote: However, I think one namespace for ZCML is enough. +1 Shane +1 from me and +5 people around who completely stuck in ZCML -- Mikhail Kashkin, Key Solutions (http://keysolutions.ru/) Zope/Plone Consulting/Hosting/WebDev Plone на

Zope 3 Marketing Competition? (was Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: Selecting a code name)

2006-02-06 Thread Gary Poster
On Feb 6, 2006, at 5:37 PM, Martin Aspeli wrote: [...] This is about getting people to *understand* what Zope is about, to understand that we *care* that they understand and that we made an *effort* to make it easy for them to get into it. It's about lowering the barrier to entry and the

[Zope3-dev] Re: Release schedule and deprecation decisions

2006-02-06 Thread Mikhail Kashkin
Jim Fulton wrote: A while ago, we had some discussion on when to make releases and how long to support deprecated features. The discussion has died down so I'll summarize what I think the conclusions were: - We'll move releases up one month to may and November from June and December.

[Zope3-dev] Re: RFC: Local Component Management Simplification

2006-02-06 Thread suresh
Stephan Richter wrote: On Friday 03 February 2006 17:23, Dieter Maurer wrote: Stephan Richter wrote at 2006-2-3 12:45 -0500: ... declareSite name=mysite / site name=mysite / !-- normal directives here. -- /site The declareSite looks redundant. I see at the site name='mysite' element that