[Zope3-dev] Re: System python for *development*? (Was: 3.3.0 tag broken by zc.catalog eggs?)

2007-05-23 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
Marius Gedminas wrote: On Mon, May 21, 2007 at 10:44:47AM -0400, Jim Fulton wrote: On May 21, 2007, at 1:39 AM, Martijn Pieters wrote: Come again? Using the system python when developing has always been fine; No. It has never been fine for any aspect of development. If you develop with your

Re: [Zope3-dev] System python for *development*? (Was: 3.3.0 tag broken by zc.catalog eggs?)

2007-05-23 Thread Chris Withers
Marius Gedminas wrote: * distros splitting the Python profiler into a separate package due to licencing problems, with a "helpful" stub that prints an informational message (go apt-get install python-profiler) instead of raising ImportError. On this one, I raised it with the packa

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: System python for *development*? (Was: 3.3.0 tag broken by zc.catalog eggs?)

2007-05-23 Thread Chris Withers
Tres Seaver wrote: - Squid3 for ESI. Wow, you actually succeeded to get Squid3 to compile? ;-) Chris -- Simplistix - Content Management, Zope & Python Consulting - http://www.simplistix.co.uk ___ Zope3-dev mailing list Zope3-dev@zope.o

[Zope3-dev] Splitting package configuration

2007-05-23 Thread Stephan Richter
Hi everyone, I built my first Zope 3 instance with buildout yesterday. After I got an initial version working, I found it pretty lame to use "zope.app.zcmlfiles". With "zope.app.zcmlfiles" I had 100 eggs without it 84 eggs (this is somewhat project-specific.) However, I had to add several unn

Re: [Zope3-dev] Splitting package configuration

2007-05-23 Thread Bernd Dorn
On 23.05.2007, at 14:04, Stephan Richter wrote: Hi everyone, I built my first Zope 3 instance with buildout yesterday. After I got an initial version working, I found it pretty lame to use "zope.app.zcmlfiles". With "zope.app.zcmlfiles" I had 100 eggs without it 84 eggs (this is somewhat

Re: [Zope3-dev] Splitting package configuration

2007-05-23 Thread Fred Drake
On 5/23/07, Stephan Richter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: This solution would not be fully backward-compatible with people including package "configure.zcml" files manually. I think this is okay, since people often do not even want the browser stuff. That's hard to predict; some do, some don't, I

Re: [Zope3-dev] Splitting package configuration

2007-05-23 Thread Stephan Richter
On Wednesday 23 May 2007 11:07, Fred Drake wrote: > On 5/23/07, Stephan Richter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > This solution would not be fully backward-compatible with people > > including package "configure.zcml" files manually. I think this is okay, > > since people often do not even want the br

Re: [Zope3-dev] Splitting package configuration

2007-05-23 Thread Fred Drake
On 5/23/07, Stephan Richter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Thinking about it more, it would actually be backward-compatible, since we never released the packages in themselves but always as part of the Zope 3 bundle. Also, even the packages that are not hooked in via zope.app.zcmlfiles are added via

[Zope3-dev] Re: Splitting package configuration

2007-05-23 Thread Tres Seaver
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Fred Drake wrote: > On 5/23/07, Stephan Richter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Thinking about it more, it would actually be backward-compatible, since we >> never released the packages in themselves but always as part of the Zope 3 >> bundle. Also, even

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: Splitting package configuration

2007-05-23 Thread Jim Fulton
On May 23, 2007, at 12:35 PM, Tres Seaver wrote: I don't know what is blocking a 3.4 release. AFAIK, eggification is on the roadmap for 3.5, right? So we should be focused on stabilizing the "last zpkg build", while still allowing the eggified / broken-out project model to move forward. Th

[Zope3-dev] Re: Splitting package configuration

2007-05-23 Thread Fred Drake
On 5/23/07, Tres Seaver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hmm, the use case for slugs was to support "application with separately installed extensions"; Fred, I think your view is prejudiced by the fact that you don't have any need for pluggability / extensibility. Possibly so. I'm certainly not bui

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: System python for *development*? (Was: 3.3.0 tag broken by zc.catalog eggs?)

2007-05-23 Thread Brian Sutherland
On Wed, May 23, 2007 at 09:37:33AM +0200, Philipp von Weitershausen wrote: > Marius Gedminas wrote: > > On Mon, May 21, 2007 at 10:44:47AM -0400, Jim Fulton wrote: > >> On May 21, 2007, at 1:39 AM, Martijn Pieters wrote: > >>> Come again? Using the system python when developing has always been > >

[Zope3-dev] Releasing zope.wfmc and zope.app.wfmc?

2007-05-23 Thread Brian Sutherland
Hi, In schooltool, we depend on zope.wfmc and zope.app.wfmc, and we want to make a release sometime. Unfortunately it looks like those have never been released with zope 3 or individually. Anyone object to me making a release of these two from the current trunk and uploading it to http://download

Re: [Zope3-dev] Releasing zope.wfmc and zope.app.wfmc?

2007-05-23 Thread Jim Fulton
On May 23, 2007, at 6:40 PM, Brian Sutherland wrote: Hi, In schooltool, we depend on zope.wfmc and zope.app.wfmc, and we want to make a release sometime. Unfortunately it looks like those have never been released with zope 3 or individually. Anyone object to me making a release of these tw