On 10/8/07, David Pratt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi Dieter. Zope 2 is one application among many dependent upon zope 3.
Zope 3 is different software than zope 2. It has a community of pure
zope 3 developers (that I don't believe the suggestion of folding the
lists together adequately
David Pratt wrote at 2007-10-8 00:21 -0300:
Zope 2 is one application among many dependent upon zope 3.
Zope 3 is different software than zope 2.
I do not argue with you that Zope3 is different software than Zope 2.
What I argue about is Zope 2 is an application.
I have seen hundreds of
On 10/6/07, David Pratt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I agree with you Roger. I want things to stay as they are for the same
reasons. I have great respect for Zope 2 developers however there there
are two development paradigms at play that are fundamentally
incompatible despite the inclusion of
On 10/6/07, Roger Ineichen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You are using 7 times the term Zope2 and 9 times Zope 3
and also Plone 3.0 in this small text. Can you try to describe
this without 2 or 3 in Zope *? I guess not, right?
Now you are being silly. :-) He was writing a text about how small the
Stephan Richter wrote at 2007-10-6 13:40 -0400:
...
I personally feel quiet offended to see Zope 3 degraded to a set of
components. Zope 3 in itself is also an application server; Zope 2, on the
other hand, is an application.
Maybe, but then Zope 2 is an application with variants that are
not
David Pratt wrote at 2007-10-7 12:17 -0300:
...
Zope 2 is a single application
Are you sure you know Zope2 ?
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Martijn Faassen wrote:
Zope 3 is a bunch of technologies for building (web) applications in the
form of an integrate set of Python libraries.
Let's call those the Zope Libraries. Because by now we have far more
than just the ones that came from exploding Zope 3 (e.g. all the ones
from the
Hi Dieter. Zope 2 is one application among many dependent upon zope 3.
Zope 3 is different software than zope 2. It has a community of pure
zope 3 developers (that I don't believe the suggestion of folding the
lists together adequately considers).
Folks have been developing and collaborating
On 04.10.2007, at 15:57, Jim Fulton wrote:
Any objections?
This would basically involve retiring the zope3-dev list and moving
zope3 developers to the zope-dev list.
+1
Jim
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Andreas Jung wrote:
we want to get rid of the term Zope 3 in the future
That's news to me. Perhaps for some definition of we.
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--On 6. Oktober 2007 08:14:10 -0400 Benji York [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Andreas Jung wrote:
we want to get rid of the term Zope 3 in the future
The confusion for people with the terms and Zope 2 and Zope 3 was
one of major topics of the last german Zope conference. And there
were also
Roger Ineichen wrote:
Betreff: [Zope3-dev] I'd lobe to merge the zope3-dev and
zope-dev lists
Any objections?
This would basically involve retiring the zope3-dev list and moving
zope3 developers to the zope-dev list.
-1
Not that I'm not interested in what's going on in Zope 2,
but the two
--On 6. Oktober 2007 12:03:06 -0300 David Pratt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
I agree with you Roger. I want things to stay as they are for the same
reasons. I have great respect for Zope 2 developers however there there
are two development paradigms at play that are fundamentally incompatible
Hi Andreas
What do you man by two development paradigms?
Please don't build a wall between Zope 2 and Zope 3
developers. Most old-school Zope 2 developers are doing
development also with Zope 3 components and Zope 3
techniques. Look at Plone 3.0 and its heavy usage of Zope 3
--On 6. Oktober 2007 18:24:45 +0200 Roger Ineichen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi Andreas
What do you man by two development paradigms?
Please don't build a wall between Zope 2 and Zope 3
developers. Most old-school Zope 2 developers are doing
development also with Zope 3 components and Zope
On Saturday 06 October 2007 13:14, Andreas Jung wrote:
You are using 7 times the term Zope2 and 9 times Zope 3
and also Plone 3.0 in this small text. Can you try to describe
this without 2 or 3 in Zope *? I guess not, right?
s/Zope 2/Zope application server
s/Zope 3/Zope components
I
Andreas Jung wrote at 2007-10-6 17:20 +0200:
...
The distinction between Zope 2 and Zope 3 must disappear. We must speak of
Zope. Everything else is counterproductive when it comes to promoting
Zope. There is only one Zope developer community and most of us have a Zope
2 and a Zope 3 hat on
Hi Andreas. Let me say I see the development paradigms as being the
following without prejudice to any application that depends upon zope 3.
Respectfully, no one is building walls. my contribution to the
discussion is not about isolating folks but of the reality of the
software differences.
Betreff: [Zope3-dev] I'd lobe to merge the zope3-dev and
zope-dev lists
Any objections?
This would basically involve retiring the zope3-dev list and moving
zope3 developers to the zope-dev list.
-1
Not that I'm not interested in what's going on in Zope 2,
but the two list let me
--On 6. Oktober 2007 03:16:53 +0200 Roger Ineichen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Betreff: [Zope3-dev] I'd lobe to merge the zope3-dev and
zope-dev lists
Any objections?
This would basically involve retiring the zope3-dev list and moving
zope3 developers to the zope-dev list.
-1
Not that I'm
Any objections?
This would basically involve retiring the zope3-dev list and moving
zope3 developers to the zope-dev list.
Jim
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On Thursday 04 October 2007 09:57, Jim Fulton wrote:
This would basically involve retiring the zope3-dev list and moving
zope3 developers to the zope-dev list.
-1. I do not follow zope-dev at all and the traffic is pretty high there.
Regards,
Stephan
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--On 4. Oktober 2007 15:15:40 -0400 Stephan Richter
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On Thursday 04 October 2007 09:57, Jim Fulton wrote:
This would basically involve retiring the zope3-dev list and moving
zope3 developers to the zope-dev list.
-1. I do not follow zope-dev at all and the
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