Re: [Zope] Zope 2 for Windows

2006-10-13 Thread Dario Lopez-Kästen
michael nt milne said the following on 10/12/2006 01:33 PM: No I get your point. I just feel that anti-windows feeling has to be flagged up. If not it gets endemnic and hopefully occasional pointers will feed in organically. Ultimately in OSS though people will do what they want and that is

Re: [Zope] Zope 2 for Windows

2006-10-12 Thread Philip Kilner
Michael, michael nt milne wrote: ignorant thinking. Most businesses use Windows and Zope will suffer unless it is embraced. Volunteer to look after Windows if you want to fix this, but do not insult those who have volunteered to look after other platforms. Re-read what Andreas said (there

Re: [Zope] Zope 2 for Windows

2006-10-12 Thread Chris Withers
Jens Vagelpohl wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 11 Oct 2006, at 17:14, michael nt milne wrote: The windows builds will be available as soon as someone volunteer to care about the Windows platform. ignorant thinking. Most businesses use Windows and Zope will suffer

Re: [Zope] Zope 2 for Windows

2006-10-12 Thread michael nt milne
I think that volunteer to care was the crucial phrase with focus on the word 'care'. Now perhaps I read it the wrong way and I apologise if I did but Andreas has been very anti-Windows in the past. Perhaps the word 'ignorant' is slighty harsh. I still feel there is a lot of anti-Windows feeling

Re: [Zope] Zope 2 for Windows

2006-10-12 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 12. Oktober 2006 09:07:04 +0100 Chris Withers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jens Vagelpohl wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 11 Oct 2006, at 17:14, michael nt milne wrote: The windows builds will be available as soon as someone volunteer to care about the Windows

Re: [Zope] Zope 2 for Windows

2006-10-12 Thread Chris Withers
Andreas Jung wrote: @Chris: what is STFU? Heh, I was trying to be polite, but hey, why change the habit of a lifetime? ;-) STFU = Shut The Fuck Up :-) Chris -- Simplistix - Content Management, Zope Python Consulting - http://www.simplistix.co.uk

Re: [Zope] Zope 2 for Windows

2006-10-12 Thread michael nt milne
I thought you had blacklisted me out. I wish you had! :-)Since your contributions to the Zope and Plone world are just dumb I will bring back the word ignorant since that comment plainly is. And if you think I am a troll then the same word applies. I would suggest you look at yourself and think

Re: [Zope] Zope 2 for Windows

2006-10-12 Thread michael nt milne
same to you pal :-) since you started it. Water off a duck's back mate. On 10/12/06, michael nt milne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:I thought you had blacklisted me out. I wish you had! :-) Since your contributions to the Zope and Plone world are just dumb I will bring back the word ignorant since that

Re: [Zope] Zope 2 for Windows

2006-10-12 Thread michael nt milne
your blacklist rule broken down has it? put it back please or I will have to.On 10/12/06, michael nt milne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:same to you pal :-) since you started it. Water off a duck's back mate. On 10/12/06, michael nt milne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:I thought you had blacklisted me out.

Re: [Zope] Zope 2 for Windows

2006-10-12 Thread michael nt milne
why don't YOU volunteer to do it? It seems that you are making money usingZope/Plone which is fine - but this would be a way to actually give somethingback to the community.I would be happy to do this. Yes I am making money using Plone and Zope but I could easily make money using a number of other

Re: [Zope] Zope 2 for Windows

2006-10-12 Thread knitti
On 10/12/06, michael nt milne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: my privately on your approace. I've been posting on Plone, receiving help, posting bugs and also helping others for over a year now. All totally constructive. People have also commented to me that my posts have been helpful and they have

Re: [Zope] Zope 2 for Windows

2006-10-12 Thread michael nt milne
yes I get your general 'drift'. I am putting in my own time as much as I can just now promoting Plone and therefore Zope. And this will increase over time. To be honest I am more committed to Plone and the user base there. This thread was an example of a in-built bias against Windows which I have

Re: [Zope] Zope 2 for Windows

2006-10-12 Thread knitti
On 10/12/06, michael nt milne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This thread was an example of a in-built bias against Windows which I have come up against time and time again but mainly on this list. We all know that Zope runs best on Unix but for the small to medium organisation running a server in

Re: [Zope] Zope 2 for Windows

2006-10-12 Thread michael nt milne
No I get your point. I just feel that anti-windows feeling has to be flagged up. If not it gets endemnic and hopefully occasional pointers will feed in organically. Ultimately in OSS though people will do what they want and that is also part of the value. Finally I don't think I am 'whining' on

Re: [Zope] Zope 2 for Windows

2006-10-12 Thread Dieter Maurer
michael nt milne wrote at 2006-10-12 10:06 +0100: ... I still feel there is a lot of anti-Windows feeling and whilst I don't prefer the platform I feel it should be well supported. In fact, Windows is better supported than other platforms. But, unfortunately, its users need even much more

Re: [Zope] Zope 2 for Windows

2006-10-12 Thread yary
On 12/10/06, Dieter Maurer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... nor want to install the priceless Cygwin (which brings a compiler with it) and generate the executables themselves (as users of other platforms do). Cygwin isn't mentioned in the windows install doc, and indeed a conscientious user

Re: [Zope] Zope 2 for Windows

2006-10-11 Thread michael nt milne
The windows builds will be available as soon as someone volunteer to careabout the Windows platform.ignorant thinking. Most businesses use Windows and Zope will suffer unless it is embraced. On 10/11/06, Andreas Jung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --On 11. Oktober 2006 11:18:42 -0700 yary [EMAIL

Re: [Zope] Zope 2 for Windows

2006-10-11 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 11 Oct 2006, at 17:14, michael nt milne wrote: The windows builds will be available as soon as someone volunteer to care about the Windows platform. ignorant thinking. Most businesses use Windows and Zope will suffer unless it is