The answer to your question is, no. I would not ask the barber about taxes, etc.
I would ask him ANYTHING related to hair care though. If he uses a brush or a
razor in his line of work, I would ask him about the razor or brush. If I use
JDBC in my servlet work, why can't I ask questions about JDBC?
Jay Burgess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>@JAVA.SUN.COM> on 02/02/2001 07:15:13 AM
Please respond to "A mailing list for discussion about Sun Microsystem's Java
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Subject: Re: [ADMIN] Please Read: Community driven list?
I think you've actually made the comment that sums up the current problem
with the list:
"Sad to say, I rarely get the help I need from the list."
Let me ask you this: Do you go to your barber to ask about tax issues, get
help with a legal problem, and find out what time of the year to plant
watermelon? No. You go to him to get your hair cut. There are other
professionals dedicated to these other tasks, and you ask them for this
information.
These lists should work the same way. Because if they don't, they're much
like your barber spending all his time reading legal journals, tax
pamphlets, and gardening magazines. He does a lousy job of cutting hair,
and people stop going to him.
Jay
-----Original Message-----
From: Stephen Casey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, February 02, 2001 11:43 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [ADMIN] Please Read: Community driven list?
I hate to hear that you are offloading the moderator job to each of us. I think
we have too many condescending jerks on this list as it is. Instead I would
like
the atmosphere to change to one where ANYONE can feel comfortable asking
ANYTHING that has to do with their servlet work. I originally came to the list
looking for help with my JDBC connections. Instead of providing an answer I was
told, 'this is off topic'. Turns out there is a difference working with JDBC in
servlets as opposed to java applications. The longest threads I've seen on this
list have had to do with the so called experts scolding newbies about asking
questions that have been asked and answered before. When I read the archives, I
see answers. Many times these answers are conflicting. In some cases they are
just wrong. How do you know what keywords to use in your search?
Anyway, that is my rant. I wouldn't have offered it but, you asked. Bottom line
is I think you should excuse yourself from the list if the emails get to be too
many for you. I actually now use the archives to find the email addresses of
people who seem friendly and don't mind offering help to idiots like me. I send
a private email and if I can't get an answer that way I'll go to the list. Sad
to say, I rarely get the help I need from the list. I think many people who
might have answered have been run off by the 'experts'.
I think the code repository is a great idea. I think strict enforcement of the
'rules' is a terrible idea. Most of the people who use this list simply crave
knowledge. Let's make it a place where they can come and ask without being
castigated for their lack of 'expertise'.
Sorry if I offended anyone. This is not a personal attack.
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