Thank you Marco to clarify the current policy stated in RIPE. Thank you, Ernest Tse
Marco Schmidt <[email protected]> 於 2022年9月12日 週一 下午4:39寫道： > Hello Ernest and colleagues, > > I would like to provide some clarification for the RIPE region. > > The proposal states > -------------- > In other RIRs, the leasing of addresses is not authorized either and since > it is not explicit in their policy manuals either, this proposal will be > presented as well. > > Nothing is currently mentioned in RIPE about this and it is not acceptable > as a justification of the need. [...] > -------------- > > In the RIPE region the term "leasing" is not defined and therefore it does > not play a role in the request evaluation. > Further, the RIPE policies for IPv4 do not require any specific > justification of the need. > > Before providing a statement about the policy status in the RIPE region, I > kindly suggest that proposers contact first our Policy Officer ( > [email protected]) for input. > > Kind regards, > Marco Schmidt > Manager Registration Services & Policy Development > RIPE NCC > > > On 09/09/2022 18:01, Lu Heng wrote: > > Hi Ernest: > > RIPE, ARIN,AFRINIC does not have any of the similar policy. > > Due to language barriers, I am not familiar with LACINIC. > > > > On Fri, 9 Sept 2022 at 17:51, ERNEST TSE <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Hi All, >> >> Just take a look of this new policy suggested and I know this is still in >> discussion stage. >> First at all, my business don't have any IP leasing business in APNIC >> region. And majorly my business is doing hosting business, and now I'm >> sitting in RIPE region (UK) for my business. >> >> For my view of this new policy as below: >> (1) Is that RIPE really have this kind of policy? Which one? (This policy >> suggested RIPE have this kind of policy?) I cannot see it the same thing in >> RIPE of our membership account. >> (2) If leasing is not allowed, is that mean small business (New hosting / >> ISP) won't be able to get the new IPv4 address from leasing market? Or they >> just can buy it at high cost from second market? >> (3) The policy suggested that there need to have "direct connection", is >> that mean GRE/VPN is also not included? How about if some customers in >> mainland China, they would like to get virtual Internet address from >> outside(mainly HK) in some case? >> (4) Any new solution for new comer to apply IPv4 direct from APNIC? If >> no, what they can do? >> >> Hope someone can answer of above questions. >> >> Thank you, >> Ernest Tse >> >> Lu Heng <[email protected]> 於 2022年9月9日 週五 下午4:13寫道： >> >>> Aftab: >>> >>> Any of APNIC document can not be outside scope of law. >>> >>> Or you suggesting that clause will except APNIC from rule of law? >>> >>> On Fri, 9 Sept 2022 at 16:01, Aftab Siddiqui <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Lu, >>>> >>>> On Fri, 9 Sept 2022 at 16:35, Lu Heng <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi Andrew: >>>>> >>>>> No, I did not say the registrar has no power to enforce its own >>>>> contract. >>>>> >>>>> I am saying the power in such a contract is very limited. >>>>> >>>>> And policies being made here can not dump out of legal limitation of a >>>>> contract. >>>>> >>>> >>>> IANAL, but just for your information. >>>> >>>> Membership Agreement >>>> The Member must: >>>> 3.2 (d) Comply with this agreement and all APNIC Documents. >>>> >>>> All policies once approved and implemented become part of the APNIC >>>> documents and that's why they become part of the membership agreement. >>>> >>>> Anyways, we were discussing the merit of the policy on technical and >>>> operational grounds not on political grounds or business interest. >>>> >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> >>>> Aftab A. Siddiqui >>>> >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> -- >>> Kind regards. >>> Lu >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> sig-policy - https://mailman.apnic.net/[email protected]/ >>> To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] >> >> _______________________________________________ >> sig-policy - https://mailman.apnic.net/[email protected]/ >> To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] > > > > -- > -- > Kind regards. > Lu > > > _______________________________________________ > sig-policy - https://mailman.apnic.net/[email protected]/ > To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] > >
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