Hi Ernest:

RIPE, ARIN,AFRINIC does not have any of the similar policy.

Due to language barriers, I am not familiar with LACINIC.



On Fri, 9 Sept 2022 at 17:51, ERNEST TSE <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi All,
>
> Just take a look of this new policy suggested and I know this is still in
> discussion stage.
> First at all, my business don't have any IP leasing business in APNIC
> region. And majorly my business is doing hosting business, and now I'm
> sitting in RIPE region (UK) for my business.
>
> For my view of this new policy as below:
> (1) Is that RIPE really have this kind of policy? Which one? (This policy
> suggested RIPE have this kind of policy?) I cannot see it the same thing in
> RIPE of our membership account.
> (2) If leasing is not allowed, is that mean small business (New hosting /
> ISP) won't be able to get the new IPv4 address from leasing market? Or they
> just can buy it at high cost from second market?
> (3) The policy suggested that there need to have "direct connection", is
> that mean GRE/VPN is also not included? How about if some customers in
> mainland China, they would like to get virtual Internet address from
> outside(mainly HK) in some case?
> (4) Any new solution for new comer to apply IPv4 direct from APNIC? If no,
> what they can do?
>
> Hope someone can answer of above questions.
>
> Thank you,
> Ernest Tse
>
> Lu Heng <[email protected]> 於 2022年9月9日 週五 下午4:13寫道:
>
>> Aftab:
>>
>> Any of APNIC document can not be outside scope of law.
>>
>> Or you suggesting that clause will except APNIC from rule of law?
>>
>> On Fri, 9 Sept 2022 at 16:01, Aftab Siddiqui <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Lu,
>>>
>>> On Fri, 9 Sept 2022 at 16:35, Lu Heng <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Andrew:
>>>>
>>>> No, I did not say the registrar has no power to enforce its own
>>>> contract.
>>>>
>>>> I am saying the power in such a contract is very limited.
>>>>
>>>> And policies being made here can not dump out of legal limitation of a
>>>> contract.
>>>>
>>>
>>> IANAL, but just for your information.
>>>
>>> Membership Agreement
>>> The Member must:
>>> 3.2 (d) Comply with this agreement and all APNIC Documents.
>>>
>>> All policies once approved and implemented become part of the APNIC
>>> documents and that's why they become part of the membership agreement.
>>>
>>> Anyways, we were discussing the merit of the policy on technical and
>>> operational grounds not on political grounds or business interest.
>>>
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Aftab A. Siddiqui
>>>
>>>
>>
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>> Lu
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