YES! Edzackly. It's way too simplistic to assume that because we can (do) form silver chloride from ionic or even micro-particulate EIS silver in a jar, that that is what is happening in the mammal stomach, or blood, or lymph. How silver is bound, or transported in living tissue is largely unknown; how ANY metal is moved about inside us, why certain metals concentrate in certain tissues - all are questions with poorly defined answers. Take care, Malcolm
On Mon, 2009-08-24 at 08:32 -0400, Ode Coyote wrote: > > Natural Immunogenics did "test tube" tests...probably "borrowed" from the > University of Utah study. > Frank Key, the maker of MesoSilver tested for silver ions in the blood > after using ionic silver using an ion selective probe and found none. > However, he does have a means to determine total silver content in blood > samples and DIDN'T say that there was no silver, or what form it was or > wasn't in. > He also doesn't say that ionic silver doesn't work, just that it's the > particle portion that does the job. [Which implies that he found > particles..IF.. he looked and found anything] > > Logically, given no ions, if it was silver chloride, saying so would > promote his product. > If it was pure silver particles, it wouldn't. > > ..proving a negative isn't possible, so he really is saying ...*nothing* > ...and everything said ABOUT that nothing is speculation. > > We know what happens to ions in a test tube, but not in the bodies > intelligent chemical soup along with metallo transport proteins and such. > > A theory does exists [unproven] that ions and particles work together to > make *particles* in the blood, out of ions. > ANY ion exchange route is "possible". > > Also that "particles" are subject to ionization. > > "Where" Silver Chloride can form, other than in a test tube that excludes > myriads of other factors, is up in the air. > Do "particles" ionize to kill germs? [ probably so ] > > Virtually any silver compound will kill germs, some better than others in > a given environment. > But what about that "intelligent soup" environment ? > > What works...works. > That's ALL we "know". > > > Ode > > > At 06:46 PM 8/23/2009 +0100, you wrote: > >I have been lead to believe that 80% ionic to 20% colloidal is the best > >percentages to have. Trem has provided an article which claims > >that Natural Immunogenics (who make Argentyn 23) actually did in vitro > >tests that proved that ionic is the most efficaceous. This is the mix > >that most of us make on this list I believe, to consume on a regular basis > >that is. This is the mix that works for me and all the other people I > >supply. I think that Argentyn 23 is outrageously expensive too though. dee > > > >On 23 Aug 2009, at 17:04, Norton, Steve wrote: > > > >> > >> > >>Argentyn 23 is a fine ionic silver but I would not consider it the best > >>value. > >> > >>First, the price is $36 for 8 oz. IMO that is high. You can make your own > >>for about 1/100 of that. > >> > >>Second, the high ionic content, 95%, is too high. Some ionic content is > >>very desireable but, again IMO, you should try to keep it to less than > >>60% if possible. If you make your own EIS you can increase the percentage > >>of silver particles to as much as 60 % by adding a small amount of > >>hydrogen peroxide to the EIS you make. I should let you know that ionic > >>silver vs silver particles is a controversial subject. > >>If you choose to buy colloidal or ionic silver rather than make your own > >>several other good alternative sources for colloidal silver (high silver > >>particle content) are: > >> > >>* Utopia Silver - $24 for 8 oz @ 20 ppm > >>* Mesosilver - $25 for 8 oz @ 20 ppm > >> > >>- Steve N > >> > >> > >>---------- > > > -- > The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. > > Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org > > To post, address your message to: [email protected] > > Address Off-Topic messages to: [email protected] > > The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... > > List maintainer: Mike Devour <[email protected]> > >
