But you did do a lot of the early hard lifting and that's what I was nodding towards.

On Jun 23, 2008, at 12:48 PM, Paul Kyzivat wrote:

I forget who the last proposal was from, but it wasn't me.

        Paul

Hadriel Kaplan wrote:
What was "the work Paul started"?  You mean Eric's draft?
-hadriel
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Subject: Re: [Sip] INFO and what to do about it?

Paul's two points resonate with me.

Does anyone expect that if we _did_ build a usage framework for INFO, that we would somehow take the existing uses and retroactively declare
them standard and part of that framework without change?

If that were possible, what's the difference between that and just
documenting them as is and declaring them standard without this
framework.

So I don't see how building this framework will solve the kind of
problem that Martin was punctation-charactering about.

As Paul points out, creating the framework might provide better
interoperability for some _new_ use, but the level of effort someone
would have to go through to get the usage standardized is not going to be easier than standardizing it on its own. So having its not going to
do the person that wants a nifty new feature any real good.

If we had a truckload of things that would use the framework bursting
at the seams waiting for the framework, we'd all, I'm betting,
happily work very quickly to create it. I don't see this truckload of
things.  The existing uses are out there and they're not going to
change (so far when I've asked folks with features build on INFO if
they'd change their code to use this framework once it existed,
they've laughed).

So if we do anything at all, I'd favor finishing the work Paul started.

RjS

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