FYI,  we actually had the meeting targetted as a SIPPING WG adhoc:
https://www3.ietf.org/proceedings/08mar/slides/sipping-0/sipping-0_files
/frame.htm  (Chart 16)

Personally, I was in favor of an interim to discuss that topic as well
as other critical WG items. In the past, interims have really helped in
progressing key WG items.  As I understand, one roadblock for some folks
is travel approval (my proposal had been to hold the interim in Dallas
before or after the GEOPRIV interim).  It might be useful to plan
earlier for interims to allow folks to consider this in travel budgets
sooner (i.e., some of us do these quarterly and having it in the plan
earlier allows it to be approved with all other travel and can be
considered/prioritized with other travel requests, whereas if it comes
later, it requires special approval and is often challenged given
today's business environment). 

I will note that Keith did try to schedule a teleconference on this
topic, however, the quorom of key people were not available.  However,
in general, I do think regular teleconferences for the WGs with authors
to progress key topics would be useful. Recognizing that you can't get
everyone all the time, rotating time slots might help.

I don't think it's apathy or lack of interest in topics as much as many
folks I've communicated with have increased day job workloads, so the
amount of time focused on IETF has dramatically increased for some
folks. 

Mary. 

-----Original Message-----
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Dean Willis
Sent: Monday, June 23, 2008 11:02 AM
To: Cullen Jennings
Cc: [email protected]; Jon Peterson
Subject: Re: [Sip] INFO and what to do about it?


On Jun 23, 2008, at 9:41 AM, Cullen Jennings wrote:

>
> On Jun 21, 2008, at 3:57 PM, Dean Willis wrote:
>
>> Cullen Jennings wrote:
>>> Personally, I'd like to see some coherent discussion around it in a 
>>> WG meeting then try to get to consensus on it. The totally number of

>>> people bothering to follow the conversation at this point is 
>>> extremely low.
>>
>> We tried to do that in the last meeting, but I seem to remember AD 
>> intervention taking our agenda time away.
>
> Dean, a room full a 100+ people in the sipping meeting took a hum and 
> decided much to my surprise to not add an evening meeting. I realize 
> we wish there was more time but there is not and it is unlikely there 
> will be more time in Dublin. The best we can do is carefully pick what

> topics we do choose to use the time we do have on. I will note there 
> was not enough interest in this to get an
> interim meeting to happen.   I would not exactly describe this as AD  
> intervention.

No, I was talking about the 4 hour agenda request that got cut to 2
hours along with the instruction to "focus only on chartered work".

INFO is interesting, but it's not on our milestone list.

--
Dean
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