Agreed on all accounts. This kind of behavior is totally unacceptable because it preys on benevolent open-source-developers.
On 24.01.2012, at 19:04, Christiaan Hofman wrote: > > On Jan 24, 2012, at 17:34, M A wrote: > >> On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 2:42 AM, Fischlin Andreas >> <[email protected]> wrote: >>> They need to be stopped. Quickly. I looked into this but find it rather >>> confusing. Does anyone know about an efficient channel to get to Apple and >>> make sure the sale is immediately stopped and no money paid to the >>> criminals? >>> >> >> Would people be so upset if the person put the copyright notice in? If >> that's the only problem then contact the person who put it in the app >> store and ask him/her to do so. > > There's no (useful) contact information. Moreover, after this behavior I > don't feel like giving him the benefit. > >> Are people upset because the person is charging money? Then use the >> free market and put it in the app store for less (or free). Yes, this >> will cost someone money if he/she hasn't already paid Apple to be able >> to do this. > > As you say, it costs money. And it is certainly not clear that it would > possible even after paying, because strictly speaking it should be rejected, > even though App Store didn't do that here. > >> The point of the BSD license, as Patrick more or less pointed out, is >> precisely to let others use the code in basically whatever way they >> want. There's no requirement (nor, presumably, desire from the >> original authors) that someone who uses the code needs to add value, >> share original contributions, or not charge money (though making Skim >> available through the app store is a minimal addition of value). >> > > There's also a small matter of behavior. The fact that, strictly speaking, > you;re allowed to does not mean you should take advantage of that. There's no > cost in asking, and he didn't. Not even in the most minimal and legally > required way. Quite frankly, this freeloading behavior I find the most > upsetting, and if we can punish him for that maximally for this by removing > it from the App Store I support that. > >> Personally, I wouldn't like it if someone did this with most of the >> code that I write, which is why I use the GPL. Code where I only care >> about getting some credit I release under the BSD. >> >> The icon used by Skim could easily be claimed as an unregistered >> trademark. Although not as strong legally as a registered trademark, >> it does afford some rights to the Skim developers. It's also not clear >> whether the BSD license pertains solely to the source code (either in >> binary or text format) or whether it actually includes something like >> the icon. > > I don't know much about that. And also the icon is created by a third party, > though specifically for us. But I would say that the icon also falls under > the copyright. The copyright is also in the about box, not just in the code. > >> Do reviews allow you to put in web addresses? If so maybe someone who >> bought the app can put Skim's homepage in a review. (I already see >> there are a couple of reviews mentioning it is a rip-off of Skim). >> >> Mark A > > Christiaan > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Keep Your Developer Skills Current with LearnDevNow! > The most comprehensive online learning library for Microsoft developers > is just $99.99! Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL - plus HTML5, CSS3, MVC3, > Metro Style Apps, more. Free future releases when you subscribe now! > http://p.sf.net/sfu/learndevnow-d2d > _______________________________________________ > Skim-app-users mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/skim-app-users ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Keep Your Developer Skills Current with LearnDevNow! The most comprehensive online learning library for Microsoft developers is just $99.99! Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL - plus HTML5, CSS3, MVC3, Metro Style Apps, more. Free future releases when you subscribe now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/learndevnow-d2d _______________________________________________ Skim-app-users mailing list [email protected] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/skim-app-users
