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On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 11:26 PM, Paul Griswold < [email protected]> wrote: > Wow! I guess I haven't kept up with Modo at all. > > It does look pretty appealing. > > > — > Sent from Mailbox <https://www.dropbox.com/mailbox> for iPad > > > On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 4:47 PM, David Rivera < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> Yes, please I´m into the webinar. I recently saw this: >> https://vimeo.com/76876920 and I´m picturing myself adding more "modo >> mentality" asap :) >> Thanks. >> David R. >> >> >> >> On Thursday, March 6, 2014 2:01 PM, Nic Sievers <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> Count me in as well >> >> >> On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 10:59 AM, Sebastien Sterling < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >> Webinar sounds cool would love to hear where things are going >> >> >> On 6 March 2014 18:54, Maurício PC <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> I'm also in for the webinar. Brads webinar are always fun and he can >> convey and express himself really well. Looking forward to it. >> >> >> On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 3:44 PM, Michael Clarke <[email protected]>wrote: >> >> Count me in for the webinar. >> >> >> Very interested to see what could become of the package if it has some >> customer-focused dedication behind it. >> >> I suspect my strategy at this point shared by a number of other users. >> I'll continue to use SI and take the Maya path for the moment. The real >> decision will be whether to continue with maintenance or to continue to use >> SI (an probably Maya) without a viable upgrade path. Either way, i am going >> to be looking for a package to fill in some gaps and MODO looks like a >> reasonably priced quality alternative with a future. If in two years it >> looks like it could one day be a truly complete app comparable to AD's >> offerings, then the decision to cut ties with AD becomes less difficult. Up >> until that point — and as some have pointed out already, several years >> beyond, — SI will remain a functional tool capable of handling most of my >> needs. >> >> MODO can at minimum be something of a stopgap to hedge the risks. It >> looks like fairly low cost way of providing a buffer to the current >> dilemma. It's value as a supplemental tool is worth looking into, whether >> or not it ever becomes a primary production tool. The whole relationship >> with The Foundry feels good at this point. >> >> One more thing. AD had some great people working there, and most of the >> folks who interacted with customers were extremely dedicated and helpful. >> What I always sensed from them, however, was a disconnect between the >> support and development teams, and the decision makers within the company. >> That's something smaller companies like LUX/Foundry can handle differently. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> I'm not looking for MODO to become my primary tool. >> >> On Mar 6, 2014, at 12:09 PM, Eugen Sares <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> In for that webinar, too... >> >> >> ------ Originalnachricht ------ >> Von: "Tim Crowson" <[email protected]> >> An: [email protected] >> Gesendet: 06.03.2014 19:01:30 >> Betreff: Re: Luxology Modo 50% off for this mailing list - A new word >> from Brad Peebler >> >> >> Yes there is. Not much of a secret anymore.... :-) >> >> -Tim >> >> >> On 3/6/2014 11:55 AM, Paul Griswold wrote: >> >> Oh don't get me started on the history of Modo - it'll totally derail >> things. >> >> I'm an old-time Lightwave beta tester from the early-mid 1990's. Brad >> Peebler was my contact at NewTek back in those days. There's a whole drama >> around how Modo came about. >> ᐧ >> >> >> On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 12:52 PM, Tim Crowson < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >> Mmm.... Paul I think you're getting close to the genetic >> fallacy<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetic_fallacy> >> with that. Also I'm not sure Modo was ever intended to replace >> Lightwave. Maybe, just not sure...? >> >> I think your point about opening things up the way ICE does is an >> important distinction to make though. ICE is a platform, not just series of >> tools to meet specific needs. As such, it shares a room with very few >> systems (Houdini, Maya internally as I understand...). But the vast >> majority of 3D applications out there, including Softimage (minus ICE), are >> built to address specific, known production needs. I don't think it's fair >> to criticize the choice to design an application this way, simply because >> such a design choice indicates that the developer is trying to meet >> artists' known needs. Certainly there's absolutely no denying the power and >> flexibility of a platform like ICE/Houdini, which essentially opens up a >> layer between the raw API and the immediate toolset exposed to the user, >> allowing them to create new tools via node-based programming. But if that's >> *all *we had, I doubt many of us could get our work done on time. Most >> of us still need traditional, focused toolsets as well. >> >> >> *As for Modo, people are going to have to take the responsibility of >> doing their own due diligence in evaluating it*. There's no definite >> answer to 'can it replace Softimage?' That's silly. It just depends on what >> your needs are, like everything else. In its current state and because of >> our pipeline here at Magnetic, I use Modo primarily as a swiss army knife. >> Just yesterday I was able to load in an illustrator file with complicated >> curves into Modo, set them to be renderable, then bake that geometry cache >> into something I could export (rims all around these intricate designs on a >> stained glass window). Could not have done that nearly as easily otherwise, >> not by a mile. Took me 30s in Modo. Stuff like that is a stress relief for >> me! >> >> Anyway, I would LOVE to see a truly procedural platform like ICE come to >> Modo.. Who wouldn't? >> >> -Tim >> >> >> >> On 3/6/2014 11:25 AM, Paul Griswold wrote: >> >> Well Modo is essentially Lightwave Part 2, since it came from the >> original programmers of Lightwave and at one point was supposed to replace >> Lightwave. I feel like they tend to want to build specific tools to fill >> specific needs instead of opening things up the way ICE does. >> ᐧ >> >> >> On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 12:13 PM, Sebastien Sterling < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >> Lightwave mentality Paul ? >> >> >> On 6 March 2014 17:07, Paul Griswold < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >> I'd love to sit in on a webinar. Modo scares me a little bit in that >> they still seem to have the LW mentality there. >> >> -Paul >> >> ᐧ >> >> >> On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 12:04 PM, Chris Johnson <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> I'm in for the Webinar. and what is the contact information again to >> e-mail him directly? >> >> >> On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 11:50 AM, Tim Crowson < >> [email protected]>wrote: >> >> More contact from Brad off-list..... He says the following... >> >> *I've been thinking about how this all went down and I'm feeling a bit >> sad about it. I have a new idea. People should not feel like they have to >> rush to make a move. They don't! Soft is still awesome and will be for >> years to come. Rather than offering another promo code what I would like to >> do is offer an extended trial of MODO for anyone who wants it. They can >> contact me directly and I'll get them setup with a 60 day license. My offer >> still stands that anyone who talks to me directly will also find that I am >> a man of my word (with regard to the code). Wink wink. I can't publicly >> extend that offer but I will stand by it for anyone on that list.* >> >> *I would also be willing to set up an invitation only webinar for the >> list so we can talk openly under a "gentlemens NDA". I'd love to clear up >> some of the confusion about MODO being built as a modeler only and share >> some short, mid and long term goals for the product. Finally, I'm getting >> quite a bit of email this week so if someone doesn't hear from me straight >> away please feel free to send your email again. I won't be offended to get >> spammed. :)* >> >> >> If you guys are interested in taking him up in his webinar idea, please >> voice it! I'm pretty sure he can read these messages on the Google group, >> but if not I'm happy to convey your corporate response. >> >> -Tim >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> <http://www.avast.com/> >> Diese E-Mail ist frei von Viren und Malware, denn der avast! >> Antivirus<http://www.avast.com/> >> Schutz ist aktiv. >> >> >> >> >> Michael Clarke Design >> Blue C Studios >> 713-927-9835 >> >> >> >> >> -- >> gonebadfx.com >> - your source for bad fx >> >> >> >> >> >> >
