a Modo webinar? Count me in!

Chris

On 06/03/14 22:46, David Rivera wrote:
Yes, please I´m into the webinar. I recently saw this:
https://vimeo.com/76876920 and I´m picturing myself adding more "modo mentality" asap :)
Thanks.
David R.



On Thursday, March 6, 2014 2:01 PM, Nic Sievers <[email protected]> wrote:
Count me in as well


On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 10:59 AM, Sebastien Sterling <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    Webinar sounds cool would love to hear where things are going


    On 6 March 2014 18:54, Maurício PC <[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

        I'm also in for the webinar. Brads webinar are always fun and
        he can convey and express himself really well. Looking forward
        to it.


        On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 3:44 PM, Michael Clarke
        <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

            Count me in for the webinar.


            Very interested to see what could become of the package if
            it has some customer-focused dedication behind it.

            I suspect my strategy at this point shared by a number of
            other users. I'll continue to use SI and take the Maya
            path for the moment. The real decision will be whether to
            continue with maintenance or to continue to use SI (an
            probably Maya) without a viable upgrade path. Either way,
            i am going to be looking for a package to fill in some
            gaps and MODO looks like a reasonably priced quality
            alternative with a future. If in two years it looks like
            it could one day be a truly complete app comparable to
            AD's offerings, then the decision to cut ties with AD
            becomes less difficult. Up until that point — and as some
            have pointed out already, several years beyond, — SI will
            remain a functional tool capable of handling most of my
            needs.

            MODO can at minimum be something of a stopgap to hedge the
            risks. It looks like fairly low cost way of providing a
            buffer to the current dilemma.  It's value as a
            supplemental tool is worth looking into, whether or not it
            ever becomes a primary production tool. The whole
            relationship with The Foundry feels good at this point.

            One more thing. AD had some great people working there,
            and most of the folks who interacted with customers were
            extremely dedicated and helpful. What I always sensed from
            them, however, was a disconnect between the support and
            development teams, and the decision makers within the
            company. That's something smaller companies like
            LUX/Foundry can handle differently.








            I'm not looking for MODO to become my primary tool.

            On Mar 6, 2014, at 12:09 PM, Eugen Sares
            <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

            In for that webinar, too...
            ------ Originalnachricht ------
            Von: "Tim Crowson" <[email protected]
            <mailto:[email protected]>>
            An:[email protected]
            <mailto:[email protected]>
            Gesendet: 06.03.2014 19:01:30
            Betreff: Re: Luxology Modo 50% off for this mailing list
            - A new word from Brad Peebler
            Yes there is. Not much of a secret anymore.... :-)

            -Tim


            On 3/6/2014 11:55 AM, Paul Griswold wrote:
            Oh don't get me started on the history of Modo - it'll
            totally derail things.

            I'm an old-time Lightwave beta tester from the
            early-mid 1990's.  Brad Peebler was my contact at
            NewTek back in those days.  There's a whole drama
            around how Modo came about.
            ᐧ


            On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 12:52 PM, Tim
            Crowson<[email protected]
            <mailto:[email protected]>>wrote:

                Mmm.... Paul I think you're getting close to
                thegenetic fallacy
                <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetic_fallacy>with
                that. Also I'm not sure Modo was ever intended to
                replace Lightwave. Maybe, just not sure...?

                I think your point about opening things up the way
                ICE does is an important distinction to make
                though. ICE is a platform, not just series of tools
                to meet specific needs. As such, it shares a room
                with very few systems (Houdini, Maya internally as
                I understand...). But the vast majority of 3D
                applications out there, including Softimage (minus
                ICE), are built to address specific, known
                production needs. I don't think it's fair to
                criticize the choice to design an application this
                way, simply because such a design choice indicates
                that the developer is trying to meet artists' known
                needs. Certainly there's absolutely no denying the
                power and flexibility of a platform like
                ICE/Houdini, which essentially opens up a layer
                between the raw API and the immediate toolset
                exposed to the user, allowing them to create new
                tools via node-based programming. But if
                that's/all/we had, I doubt many of us could get our
                work done on time. Most of us still need
                traditional, focused toolsets as well.


                /As for Modo, people are going to have to take the
                responsibility of doing their own due diligence in
                evaluating it/. There's no definite answer to 'can
                it replace Softimage?' That's silly. It just
                depends on what your needs are, like everything
                else. In its current state and because of our
                pipeline here at Magnetic, I use Modo primarily as
                a swiss army knife. Just yesterday I was able to
                load in an illustrator file with complicated curves
                into Modo, set them to be renderable, then bake
                that geometry cache into something I could export
                (rims all around these intricate designs on a
                stained glass window). Could not have done that
                nearly as easily otherwise, not by a mile. Took me
                30s in Modo.  Stuff like that is a stress relief
                for me!

                Anyway, I would LOVE to see a truly procedural
                platform like ICE come to Modo.. Who wouldn't?

                -Tim



                On 3/6/2014 11:25 AM, Paul Griswold wrote:
                Well Modo is essentially Lightwave Part 2, since
                it came from the original programmers of Lightwave
                and at one point was supposed to replace
                Lightwave.  I feel like they tend to want to build
                specific tools to fill specific needs instead of
                opening things up the way ICE does.
                ᐧ


                On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 12:13 PM, Sebastien
                Sterling<[email protected]
                <mailto:[email protected]>>wrote:

                    Lightwave mentality Paul ?


                    On 6 March 2014 17:07, Paul
                    Griswold<[email protected] 
<mailto:[email protected]>>wrote:

                        I'd love to sit in on a webinar.  Modo
                        scares me a little bit in that they still
                        seem to have the LW mentality there.

                        -Paul

                        ᐧ


                        On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 12:04 PM, Chris
                        Johnson<[email protected]
                        <mailto:[email protected]>>wrote:

                            I'm in for the Webinar. and what is
                            the contact information again to
                            e-mail him directly?


                            On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 11:50 AM, Tim
                            Crowson<[email protected]
                            <mailto:[email protected]>>wrote:

                                More contact from Brad
                                off-list..... He says the following...

                                /I've been thinking about how this
                                all went down and I'm feeling a
                                bit sad about it. I have a new
                                idea. People should not feel like
                                they have to rush to make a move.
                                They don't! Soft is still awesome
                                and will be for years to come.
                                Rather than offering another promo
                                code what I would like to do is
                                offer an extended trial of MODO
                                for anyone who wants it. They can
                                contact me directly and I'll get
                                them setup with a 60 day license.
                                My offer still stands that anyone
                                who talks to me directly will also
                                find that I am a man of my word
                                (with regard to the code). Wink
                                wink. I can't publicly extend that
                                offer but I will stand by it for
                                anyone on that list.//
                                //
                                /
                                /I would also be willing to set up
                                an invitation only webinar for the
                                list so we can talk openly under a
                                "gentlemens NDA". I'd love to
                                clear up some of the confusion
                                about MODO being built as a
                                modeler only and share some short,
                                mid and long term goals for the
                                product. Finally, I'm getting
                                quite a bit of email this week so
                                if someone doesn't hear from me
                                straight away please feel free to
                                send your email again. I won't be
                                offended to get spammed. :)/


                                If you guys are interested in
                                taking him up in his webinar idea,
                                please voice it! I'm pretty sure
                                he can read these messages on the
                                Google group, but if not I'm happy
                                to convey your corporate response.

                                -Tim







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