Mirko and Fabricio are nailing it with Maya. Can't wait to get access to
the blog and start posting.
I still can't believe how on all of these years speedy service packs do
nothing but unstabilize other libraries for render.

This happened way back when SI2014 came out and a year later they eol. Then
Maya mentioned MR will be no more, and I didn't read the *warning sign:
install at your own risk* Well it happened that I installed maya 2016
version with no Mental Ray and the little brat went on so far as to corrupt
SI mental ray library. I was in shock because I had to cross product
renders at the time and now I had a 30 day trial that messed my MR
libraries and SI will not respond to render anymore. Had to delete
everything AD related even from the regedit entrances. Then reinstall SI
only. I had to run MA on a virtual machine. That was the only way to cage
that beast...

On Fri, Mar 30, 2018, 09:46 Artur W <artur.w...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Please, that's the first thing you do with maya. DOH!.
>
> Artur
>
> ;)
>
> 2018-03-30 15:19 GMT+02:00 Fabricio Chamon <xsiml...@gmail.com>:
>
>> Protip: have 2 maya sessions opened -> Begin working on one of them ->
>> wait for the crash -> kill on task manager -> fire up another session ->
>> continue work on already opened session while new one loads -> no wait 3
>> minutes for maya to start -> happyness (?)
>>
>> This is how I work in maya EVERYTIME.
>>
>> I’m lucky enough to be almost 100% houdini these days. =)
>>
>> Em sex, 30 de mar de 2018 às 09:15, Mirko Jankovic <
>> mirkoj.anima...@gmail.com> escreveu:
>>
>>> How do you know when someone is working with maya?
>>>
>>> He have his task manager opened non stop for killing the process when it
>>> becomes non responsive...again.. and again..
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Mar 30, 2018 at 1:09 PM, Laurence Dodd <laure...@porkpie.tv>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Ive spent the last month or so lighting and rendering in Maya; I was
>>>> thinking there would be something in there that made me go "oh yeah!, thats
>>>> really good", but no not once.
>>>> It felt I was fighting the software the whole time, fighting and
>>>> waiting. It's just so slow to do anything, why click once when you can
>>>> click five times seems to be the thinking.
>>>> I think the thing I was most surprised about was the lack of feedback
>>>> from the program, with Soft and Houdini you get a clue what they expect you
>>>> to click on to complete a task, but you get nothing, it's do it then undo
>>>> and try the other way around.
>>>>
>>>> Pushing on with my learning of Houdini it is then, just sometimes need
>>>> to take work to pay bills.
>>>>
>>>> On 30 March 2018 at 11:59, Mirko Jankovic <mirkoj.anima...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> - select, obj in the scene, move it, crash maya. repeat
>>>>>
>>>>> - try to got o time in timeline, wait a bit... crash.. repeat
>>>>>
>>>>> - press F, view port goes completely black. try on couple scenes and
>>>>> even blank scene with cube.. same thing. see online that there are others
>>>>> with same issue and you need ot reset all preferences.. do that and hope
>>>>> same crap won;t happen again for who knows what reason.
>>>>>
>>>>> - waste half day waiting for relatively simple scene to even load...
>>>>> move project to SSD... loading time identical as from NAS over network.. 
>>>>> go
>>>>> back to waiting and wasting time...
>>>>>
>>>>> - waste a week on stupid retarded errors in rendering, props
>>>>> disappearing and appearing randomly in frames, render done but frames not
>>>>> written out.,.. at the end reinstall maya from 2018.2 back to 2018. sort
>>>>> out some of those things.. get back others ...
>>>>>
>>>>> I will never understand how people manage to complete anything in
>>>>> normal time frame with this piece of crap.
>>>>> Actually I do understand.. they never complete in time...
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Mar 29, 2018 at 9:15 PM, Sven Constable <
>>>>> sixsi_l...@imagefront.de> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Ok, no teeths but decent knowledge of marketing. That guy is so spot
>>>>>> on, it's kinda terrifiyng. lol
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *From:* softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:
>>>>>> softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] *On Behalf Of *Anto Matkovic
>>>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, March 29, 2018 10:47 AM
>>>>>> *To:* Official Softimage Users Mailing List.
>>>>>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__groups.google.com_forum_-23-21forum_xsi-5Flist&d=DwIFaQ&c=76Q6Tcqc-t2x0ciWn7KFdCiqt6IQ7a_IF9uzNzd_2pA&r=GmX_32eCLYPFLJ529RohsPjjNVwo9P0jVMsrMw7PFsA&m=xGT15IFPdspGjyP37s2J0HBZsyYDEbxEGxpOpAPfhcI&s=cOTTwf_EKQYWRR82R65fTvRbNcgSsC3qh8zdF4z3V6w&e=
>>>>>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__groups.google.com_forum_-23-21forum_xsi-5Flist&d=DwMFaQ&c=76Q6Tcqc-t2x0ciWn7KFdCiqt6IQ7a_IF9uzNzd_2pA&r=GmX_32eCLYPFLJ529RohsPjjNVwo9P0jVMsrMw7PFsA&m=gR2IkJtTpLf5-jkktYSnclJNLlPFHZw2KG0aRMSbdgo&s=j1E898DdEm9U4bjPTvGgoyRn1J1NrYhsK8HZf9eZFI4&e=>
>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: The Maya Chronicles - or how retarded that software
>>>>>> is...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It always been like that. I think my first responsibility in 3d world
>>>>>> could be described as ''hypershade boy'' :), it was a Maya class where I
>>>>>> had to start earlier, to launch Mayas and Hypershade windows, so other
>>>>>> students would be able to use them before end of class (or something like
>>>>>> that). More or less, that 'position' is possible today.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Anyway I heard great news, there is a new principal developer in Maya
>>>>>> team, who already have experiences all over industry. While we don't know
>>>>>> for details of his actual engagement, here's what he did for Microsoft 
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> Valve:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.youtube.com_watch-3Fv-3DKHG6fXEba0A&d=DwIFaQ&c=76Q6Tcqc-t2x0ciWn7KFdCiqt6IQ7a_IF9uzNzd_2pA&r=GmX_32eCLYPFLJ529RohsPjjNVwo9P0jVMsrMw7PFsA&m=xGT15IFPdspGjyP37s2J0HBZsyYDEbxEGxpOpAPfhcI&s=URStv5YpSm6RwCfB6sy0nFUWmXCNmcgNyo3lEjj9DVk&e=
>>>>>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.youtube.com_watch-3Fv-3DKHG6fXEba0A&d=DwMFaQ&c=76Q6Tcqc-t2x0ciWn7KFdCiqt6IQ7a_IF9uzNzd_2pA&r=GmX_32eCLYPFLJ529RohsPjjNVwo9P0jVMsrMw7PFsA&m=9rVQLTgK5FG7xTQQBiVdnr63WVxbXi1o6dhRPAIYmDY&s=YW79VvxSHVsHZUqEj36esfQudkT5h9ArjTK6OC10I9g&e=>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.youtube.com_watch-3Fv-3DeDyXIXyAZq0&d=DwIFaQ&c=76Q6Tcqc-t2x0ciWn7KFdCiqt6IQ7a_IF9uzNzd_2pA&r=GmX_32eCLYPFLJ529RohsPjjNVwo9P0jVMsrMw7PFsA&m=xGT15IFPdspGjyP37s2J0HBZsyYDEbxEGxpOpAPfhcI&s=pIoSbnaWkisSR0BTyaRhNfH25becl_I7fEqXEWu2rUw&e=
>>>>>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.youtube.com_watch-3Fv-3DeDyXIXyAZq0&d=DwMFaQ&c=76Q6Tcqc-t2x0ciWn7KFdCiqt6IQ7a_IF9uzNzd_2pA&r=GmX_32eCLYPFLJ529RohsPjjNVwo9P0jVMsrMw7PFsA&m=X0ne1my8-ft9jnIcftBheH_GzdmRGfw364OEW5ZKO8w&s=aKWX1W0rAHWMYlCdDsUfZPmeWV27Sh_vQT6jchJZJUY&e=>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *From:* Morten Bartholdy <x...@colorshopvfx.dk>
>>>>>> *To:* "Userlist, Softimage" <softimage@listproc.autodesk.com>
>>>>>> *Sent:* Monday, March 26, 2018 1:25 PM
>>>>>> *Subject:* The Maya Chronicles - or how retarded that software is...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The Hypershade is slow to update A: when there are many materials (I
>>>>>> guess updating shaderballs) and even slower when the selected object has
>>>>>> many polygons. Horrible waste of the users time. WWTT??? (which is short
>>>>>> for "What Were They Thinking")
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Mirko Jankovic
>>>>> *https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.cgfolio.com_mirko-2Djankovic&d=DwIFaQ&c=76Q6Tcqc-t2x0ciWn7KFdCiqt6IQ7a_IF9uzNzd_2pA&r=GmX_32eCLYPFLJ529RohsPjjNVwo9P0jVMsrMw7PFsA&m=xGT15IFPdspGjyP37s2J0HBZsyYDEbxEGxpOpAPfhcI&s=PyCyxjx63SV9NdTPMmuhPTsOgWxWCcCo4tP5yWRReGs&e=
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>>>>>
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>>>> Porkpie Animation
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