Cameron,

RFC1958 gives the fundamental principles. search for "state".

cheers,
Ole


On Feb 13, 2012, at 5:02 , Cameron Byrne wrote:

> 
> On Feb 12, 2012 7:14 PM, "Satoru Matsushima" <satoru.matsush...@gmail.com> 
> wrote:
> >
> > On 2012/02/11, at 15:30, Cameron Byrne wrote:
> >
> > --snip--
> > >
> > > I find this omission disappointing. There is a common assumption that 
> > > stateless is superior to stateful, but it is not quantified anywhere.
> > >
> > > It seems all this stateless work hinges on this assumption without any 
> > > quantification.
> > >
> > > Honestly, the omission makes me believe the case of stateless being 
> > > superior is dubious.
> > >
> > > Cb
> >
> > Do you think that it is productive productive analysis that comparison of 
> > stateless between stateful? Current motivation draft stands not to beat 
> > other solutions, it stands for justifying to start stateless solution work 
> > on the WG so some proponents of stateless solution took a pen. My question 
> > is that if the comparison is productive for something, who should work for 
> > it, and who should read it.
> >
> 
> I assumed this explanation and comparison would be easy for the stateless 
> experts.  I looked to this as a learning opportunity for me.
> 
> I agree with you and RD, there are many good solutions that fit this problem 
> space and I do not intend to slow progress.
> 
> If it is difficult  and the differences in merit cannot be easily  quantified 
> between stateful and stateless , I accept that as an answer.
> 
> I suggested they be compared since opposites frequently help define each 
> other. Black helps define white just as cold helps define hot.  I had assumed 
> this was true for this case as well. Perhaps I was wrong.
> 
> Thanks again for your contribution. 
> 
> Cb 
> 
> > cheers,
> > --satoru
> 
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