Most of the time I let SBC or Verizon talk and then make notes, then forget 
about it.   95% of the time they have no clue,  they work the phones and 
read from a screen.   If they would let these people have some real world 
experience might help.

just my 2 cents.

James

Now I did have someone good on the Phone with Verizon today and I have a 
new DSL Modem coming my way.   The data light blinks and it should be 
solid,  they say the line is good and not to worry about it.  I told him 
the blinking means something to someone, and to me from the book it means a 
problem.  They say the line is ok,  I go ok,  so there is a problem is the 
modem,  it is still under warrantee so replace it.  Should have a 
replacement here in a few days.     Then we can see if the problem is 
either the line or the modem then.  ( if I still have the blinking lights 
then ).    Most people would have said ok it blinks so what, it works so 
what.   Well I see it as a sign,  someone would not have programmed it to 
blink if there was not a good reason.   idiot lights how fun.


At 04:14 PM 5/1/2002 -0700, you wrote:
>OH Great, just as I am about ready to set up for a client a SOHO3-10 on
>a Ameritech.net / SBC ADSL line using PPPoE do I see this post. (It is a
>remote office connecting to corp office and Sonicwall PRO via VPN.)
>
>I have already changed their service to static IP, (I did that because
>of SMTP mail problems,) so hopefully I will be ok, right?
>
>Also, the "Wonderful" tier 2 support personal at Ameritech/SBC said I
>have to use the existing Efficient Networks router between the ADSL
>modem and the SOHO3. That makes no sense what so ever, correct? They
>said I simply have to disable NAT on the EN router. Sounds stupid too
>me.
>
>Any thoughts?
>
>John Tolmachoff
>IT Manager, Network Engineer
>RelianceSoft, Inc.
>Fullerton, CA  92835
>www.reliancesoft.com
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On
>Behalf Of Todd Holt
>Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 12:09 PM
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: RE: [SonicWALL]- Sonicwall Pro 300 VPN to Efficient Networks
>Busi ness DSL router
>
>We had so many problems with PPPoE on SBC DSL line that we finally paid
>the
>extra money to get a static IP.  Works much smoother. I don't know what
>they
>were doing (and they were no help), but our SW (I also tested it with a
>LinkSys mini-firewall with the same result) kept loosing the WAN IP and
>had
>to refetch.  Down times were in the minutes x 20 per day.  Too much
>downtime.  It became cheaper to get the static IP than to spend more
>time
>solving what I think was an SBC problem, which they would never admit.
>
>FYI: Since then we moved that office from SBC DSL to a Covad DSL line.
>Never a hiccup since then.  :-)
>
>Todd
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
>Behalf Of Nick Goodman
>Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 1:53 PM
>To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
>Subject: RE: [SonicWALL]- Sonicwall Pro 300 VPN to Efficient Networks
>Busi ness DSL router
>
>
>Oh, another thing.  Anyone successfully used A Sonicwall Tele3 with SBC
>DSL
>using PPPoE as well?  I may just get another sonicwall so that
>eventually my
>entire network is comprised of them....
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Nick Goodman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 1:47 PM
>To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
>Subject: [SonicWALL]- Sonicwall Pro 300 VPN to Efficient Networks
>Business DSL router
>
>
>Anyone ever done a link between these 2 devices?  Says it supports IKE
>and
>VPN.  I'm installing a new DSL between a remote office and my corporate
>and
>was going to use another sonicwall Tele3 but swb has a good promotion to
>get
>one of these routers for alot less money.
>
>http://www.efficient.com/products/routbus.html is the link to the unit.
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