> Bellsouth did not have spammers on the part of their subnet that contains my addresses, so a listing of all of their address space *was* erroneous.
No, not really. As long as they have a corporate policy of apathy toward spammers on their network, it's appropriate. > Ever heard of subnetting? Yes, but it's a problem with BS not keeping a clean house. It's not just a single subnet that's a problem for the net community. > ... Bellsouth may be allowing spamming or not, but that still does not make it fair for these spam vigilantes to persecute the many for the sins of the few, or the ISP. .... These "vigilantes" are not persecuting anyone. SPEWS, etc. are simply providing a list of spammers, spam-friendlies and spam hot spots. What is done with that list is completely at the hands of the individuals and/or corporations who subscribe to those lists, and they have to right to block anything on their own networks for any reason they wish. Blocklists aren't really much different from credit reporting agencies who don't decide whether to give you credit or not. They simply provide information based upon past history. >>If you choose to buy service from an irresponsible provider, you shouldn't be suprised when others decline to allow connections from your servers. > So if I buy address space from your ISP and start spamming from it, it's OK with you if SPEWS shuts you down, puts your name on every other list they can find, interferes with your ability to conduct legitimate business and thereby impacts your company's revenue, and then refuses to take you off the list even though you've followed their prescribed method of requesting removal? Well, different strokes for different folks, I guess, but that's not the way I feel. Once again, SPEWS (or any of the others for that matter) doesn't shut anyone down. They merely provide a service of reporting trouble spots to subscribers (mail admins) so they can make their own decisions and set their own policies. If such lists weren't providing valuable information, nobody would be using them. Nobody is required to use a blocklist. BTW: I am (unfortunately) a Bellsouth customer. They suck as an ISP, and as a (I)LEC. Flaky service run by an incompentent staff of replicants.
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