--- In [email protected], "Stefan Pochmann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In [email protected], "d_j_salvia" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > "Mind Reach" by Russell Targ & Harold Puthoff, > > Introduction by Margaret Mead. ISBN 0-440-05688-8. > > From a 5-point review on Amazon: > > --- > Many of the subjects who participated in the experiments described in > Mind-Reach are well-known figures today: Ingo Swann, Patrick Price, > URI GELLER ... > --- > > From randi.org: > > --- > Parapsychologists Hal Puthoff and Russell Targ, who studied Mr. Geller > at the Stanford Research Institute (now known as Stanford Research > International) were aware, in one instance at least, that they were > being shown a magician's trick by Geller. They described it in their > book Mind Reach, where they said that they > > had every confidence that Uri could do that trick [the blindfold > drive] as well as any of the dozens of other magicians who do it.
This implies what? > Targ and Puthoff issued a lengthy and quite positive scientific > paper extolling the psychic abilities of Geller. Their protocols for > this "serious" investigation of the powers claimed by Geller were > described by Dr. Ray Hyman, who investigated the project on behalf of > a U.S. funding agency, as "sloppy and inadequate." >From Edwin C. May, Ph.D. Cognitive Sciences Laboratory Palo Alto, California > In the Section on the Evaluation Plan in the report, Mumford et al. (Page 2-1, 1995) correctly required of the laboratory investigations "...unambiguous [emphasis added] evidence for the existence of the phenomenon... ." Following this lead, Hyman hypothesized a number of alternative explanations for the observed statistical significance other than the anomalous cognitive one, although he admits he couldn't find any obvious flaws in the methodology (Mumford et al., 1995, Page 3-75). < >eoq< Concerning SRI's research with Geller, Dr Ray Hyman did not witness them. > --- > > > Don't believe everything you read. > > Don't worry, I certainly don't. > > Cheers! > Stefan Can you honestly say that you didn't believe what you just quoted? IIRC Randi was there at SRI for the Iri Geller trials himself. He went over all of their procedures. He prides himself at being able to sniff out fakery. He found nothing wrong. He himself found that SRI's experiment was neither sloppy nor inadequate. I am not at all impressed that Randi quotes someone else describing that SRI experiment as sloppy and inadequate, especially when he knows better from his own experience. David J ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/MXMplB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/speedsolvingrubikscube/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
