--- In [email protected], "zethusamphion" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I spent about an hour just moving sides around and 
> seeing what changes and what doesn't change orientation, and noticed 
> that if all 4 were fixed, sometimes after aligning the centers all 4 
> would be wrong.

M-turns and U-turns with U/D center on top never change orientations.

Quarter-U-turns with F/B center on top change orientations of all four 
edges in the U layer.

> One question though... how much faster is this than doing position 
> first and just fixing the (usually only one) orientation problem 
> with M'UM'UM'U2 MU'MU'MU2?  One way or another you need to put the 
> cubes in the right location, so that should take the same number of 
> moves, but isn't it faster just to do the 12 move switch rather than 
> having to keep chasing down sides and doing patterns that aren't 
> always predictable?

What do you mean, not predictable?

Cheers!
Stefan







 
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