Todd,

What about CAF?

On 2/11/08, Todd Williams - FPDC <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I will confess that I have never done a High-X system, but with the
> relative small size of the building, the racking and the arrangement
> of exits, I would be concerned from a life-safety standpoint about
> it. If we use the pre-primed design, we would be OK with the water
> supply. With the standard arrangement, we are right at the maximum
> point that the water company will allow.
>
>
> At 06:41 PM 2/11/2008, you wrote:
> >Have you considered High-X foam if your water supply is challenged?
> >
> >Thom McMahon
> >Firetech, Inc.
> >2560 Copper Ridge Dr
> >Steamboat Springs, CO 80488-2136
> >Tel: 970-879-7952
> >Fax: 970-879-7926
> >----- Original Message ----- From: "Todd Williams - FPDC" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: <sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org>
> >Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 3:48 PM
> >Subject: RE: pre-primed foam system.
> >
> >
> >>Chemical storage warehouse.
> >>
> >>At 04:53 PM 2/11/2008, you wrote:
> >>>Check with your foam supplier on the life of the foam.  Not all will
> >>>last 3 years and life span can depend on the water quality too.
> >>>
> >>>Again check with the supplier on the galvanized.  Some of the foams
> >>>react with Galvanized at certain concentration levels.  Usually it's not
> >>>a problem for foam-water systems as the foam isn't in the pipe for a
> >>>long duration of time.
> >>>
> >>>Also don't forget to check about containment. In some jurisdictions this
> >>>type of discharge has to be contained and removed as hazardous waste.
> >>>
> >>>What are you trying to protect?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>Craig L. Prahl, CET
> >>>Fire Protection Group
> >>>Mechanical Department
> >>>CH2MHILL
> >>>Lockwood Greene
> >>>1500 International Drive
> >>>PO Box 491, Spartanburg, SC  29304-0491
> >>>Direct - 864.599.4102
> >>>Fax - 864.599.8439
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> >>>http://www.lg.com
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>-----Original Message-----
> >>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Todd
> >>>Williams - FPDC
> >>>Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 4:40 PM
> >>>To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org
> >>>Subject: pre-primed foam system.
> >>>
> >>>I am designing a foam system to be fed from a limited volume public
> >>>water supply. NFPA 16 mentions a pre-primed foam system with significant
> >>>decreases in demand. I spoke to someone who knows foam and he said that
> >>>the system is filled with the foam-water mixture instead of just water
> >>>(and the foam mixed in at the riser). The biggest problem being that the
> >>>mixture breaks down over time, so it ends up as pretty much dirty water.
> >>>My questions are this: Has anyone worked with this type of system
> >>>before? I was thinking recommending a three year pre-priming schedule,
> >>>does this make sense? If the pipe is going to contain a mixture
> >>>full-time, should it be galvanized? The difference in using could be
> >>>the difference between a pump and tank for a 12,000 sqft warehouse.
> >>>
> >>>Todd G. Williams, PE
> >>>Fire Protection Design/Consulting
> >>>Stonington, Connecticut
> >>>www.fpdc.com
> >>>860.535.2080
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> >>Todd G. Williams, PE
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> Todd G. Williams, PE
> Fire Protection Design/Consulting
> Stonington, Connecticut
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