Couldn't agree more except for the part about disclaimers which simply might not hold up. If you have a bad feeling about this its probably write, walk away.
John -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2008 4:54 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: partial system What's to defend? The building doesn't require any sprinklers at all. I've yet to see a protected mini-warehouse facility, even those built to be occupied for business purposes adjacent to storage units. If there's still a level of discomfort either pass on the job or put disclaimers on the drawings and bid stating that the sprinkler system does not comply with the intent of XYZ Code and Standards for a fully sprinkled facility and that you as the designer/installer will not guarantee it's function for the protection of the building, it's contents or occupants, blah, blah blah..... Craig L. Prahl, CET Fire Protection Group Mechanical Department CH2MHILL Lockwood Greene 1500 International Drive PO Box 491, Spartanburg, SC 29304-0491 Direct - 864.599.4102 Fax - 864.599.8439 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ch2m.com -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Greg McGahan Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2008 4:37 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: partial system I understand that, but do I really want to try to defend us in the event of a fire that starts in a non-sprinklered storage unit and overruns the sprinklers in the corridor? Maybe in another type of occupancy; but I have helped people move before and I have seen the partially filled plastic gas cans and lawnmowers, weedeaters and gas grill LP bottles, etc in these units. Scary to me. Thank you, Greg McGahan Living Water Fire Protection, LLC 1160 McKenzie Road Cantonment, FL 32533 850-937-1850 Fax: 850-937-1852 -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ed Kramer Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2008 3:22 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: partial system Greg, NFPA 13 recognizes that under certain conditions, partial sprinkler systems may be installed as allowed or required by other standards or codes. Section 8.1 and 8.1.1 (07) along with A.8.1 and A.8.1.1 and the commentary in the handbook will give you the details. Ed Kramer Littleton, CO > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:sprinklerforum- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Greg McGahan > Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2008 1:52 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: RE: partial system > > I am not sure exactly what their purpose is. > > The chief building inspector says that they do not have to protect the > building at all because the arch. Has compartmentalized the building > into 4 > - 3,000 sq ft compartments which kicks them out of the greater than 30 > people chart. > > The building is classified as "S" btw. > > Therefore since sprinklers are not required he is happy with corridor > only. > I of course informed him of the "if you go you have to go all the way" > requirement and he blew me off and there we are. > > We will not do this project as is, I was just trying to get answers > before I stuck my foot in my mouth again. > > Thank you, > Greg McGahan > > Living Water Fire Protection, LLC > 1160 McKenzie Road > Cantonment, FL 32533 > 850-937-1850 > Fax: 850-937-1852 _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) CONFIDENTIAL AND PROPRIETARY: This email message is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged and confidential, nor is it, unless specifically stated, intended to be relied upon by any person or persons other than the individual or entity named above and no warranties or representations are made or intended to persons or entities not named above. 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