With that said where does this "egress arrangement" fall within the code sections previously referenced ?. The situation described indicates this is a common corridor there serves four fire areas within a single building.
It's a common means of egress wherein all areas of the building are served by it, thus the total occupancy load of the building is considered. Conversely if each of the fire areas had its own independent means of egress then the occupant load of each space would be considered separately. Table 1017.1 is corridor fire resistance. In use S if the "OCCUPANT LOAD SERVED BY THE CORRIDOR" exceeds 30 then a one hour rating is required or zero rating with a sprinkler system pursuant to note c; "buildings equipped THROUGHOUT with an automatic sprinkler system installed in accordance with Section 903.3.1.1(NFPA-13-2002) or 903.3.1.2 (NFPA-13R-2002) [13R provision not applicable in non residential buildings]. Interestingly the layout you described will already provide the one hour corridor rating since the fire area seperations will be rated. Look beyond 1017, how about access and travel distance ? John Drucker -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Greg McGahan Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2008 4:38 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: partial system There is one common corridor shaped like a cross that cuts the building into 4 parts. Thank you, Greg McGahan Living Water Fire Protection, LLC 1160 McKenzie Road Cantonment, FL 32533 850-937-1850 Fax: 850-937-1852 -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Drucker Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2008 3:31 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: partial system Say what ?. Is there a common corridor or is this four separate compartments each with their own means of egress to the exterior of the building without passing through the others and within the non sprinklered exit access, travel distances, corridor ratings, ? Any code references provided in any of this ? John -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Greg McGahan Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2008 3:52 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: partial system I am not sure exactly what their purpose is. The chief building inspector says that they do not have to protect the building at all because the arch. Has compartmentalized the building into 4 - 3,000 sq ft compartments which kicks them out of the greater than 30 people chart. The building is classified as "S" btw. Therefore since sprinklers are not required he is happy with corridor only. I of course informed him of the "if you go you have to go all the way" requirement and he blew me off and there we are. We will not do this project as is, I was just trying to get answers before I stuck my foot in my mouth again. Thank you, Greg McGahan Living Water Fire Protection, LLC 1160 McKenzie Road Cantonment, FL 32533 850-937-1850 Fax: 850-937-1852 -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Drucker Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2008 1:39 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: partial system Is this a means of egress question ? If so then take a look at the following 2006 IBC Chapter 10 provisions; 1) Exit Access 1014.3 - Exception 1 - "building is equipped THROUGHOUT with an automatic sprinkler system installed in accordance with Section 903.3.1.1" (NFPA-13-2002) 2) Travel Distance Table 1016.1 Note c. -"buildings equipped THROUGHOUT with an automatic sprinkler system installed in accordance with Section 903.3.1.1" (NFPA-13-2002) 3) Corridor Fire Resistance Rating Table 1017.1 Note c. -"buildings equipped THROUGHOUT with an automatic sprinkler system installed in accordance with Section 903.3.1.1(NFPA-13-2002) or 903.3.1.2 (NFPA-13R-2002) [13R provision not applicable in non residential buildings] Does that help ? John Drucker Fire Protection Subcode Official (AHJ) New Jersey -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Greg McGahan Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2008 12:25 PM To: [email protected] Subject: partial system OK, got a architect and engineer that claim that they can protect the corridors only on a mini-storage warehouse. : The IBC states that if the building has sprinklers but does not say sprinklered throughout - has anyone else seen/done this? 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