Dan,  

NFPA 101 may or may not require electrical supervision.  The occupancy
chapter will require a "supervised" automatic sprinkler system or just
an automatic sprinkler system.  The "supervised" automatic sprinkler
system requires electrical supervision, but the automatic sprinkler
system can be supervised via NFPA 13 methods without connection to a
fire alarm system.  See the new mercantile occupancy requirement
(chapter 36-supervised) versus the existing mercantile occupancy
requirement (chapter 37-not supervised) for an example.   Supervised is
defined in Chapter 9. (9.7.2).

Most require supervised automatic sprinkler systems.

Pete Larrimer
VA

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Our rule of thumb has always been that when codes conflict use the most
stringent,  then you know you are in compliance.   

If otherwise in doubt, contact the AHJ.




Craig L. Prahl, CET   
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Dear all

Confusion about electrical supervision of sprinkler control valves: 

According to NFPA 13, it is sufficient to chain lock the sprinkler
control valves. 

I.E. no requirement to monitor the position of the valves. 

Other NFPA codes such as 101 and 5000, require such supervision in
storage areas. 

IFC 2006 903.4 requires valves to be electrically supervised. 

I would appreciate your opinions

Dan Arbel




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