Hey now, someone spended a lot of time thinkin' up that rule for you to
follow, so if they thought it up you need to provide them with something
to meet the rule whether it exists or not!


Why are people always fussin' against progress! 


Craig L. Prahl, CET   
Fire Protection Group
Mechanical Department
CH2MHILL
Lockwood Greene
1500 International Drive
PO Box 491, Spartanburg, SC  29304-0491
Direct - 864.599.4102
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Subject: Re: Excessive Water Demands by AHJ for 13D's

Well, how about this one, which I just picked up from a fire department
website today, here in Southern California:

"Sprinkler heads in the garage shall be protected against damage by
approved guards"

This has been interpreted to require that recessed sprinklers must have
head guards installed.

There are none listed for recessed sprinklers. 

Doesn't phase them a bit.  When I asked how it was to be resolved, the
answer was "That's your problem, not mine."

PARSLEY CONSULTING
Ken Wagoner, SET
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Todd Williams - FPDC wrote:
> My favorite so far is the AHJ who required a stamped letter stating 
> that the public supply could provide the required flow (about 36 gpm) 
> for the 10 minute duration.
>
>
>
> At 11:23 AM 6/11/2008, you wrote:
>> Hello Thom,
>>
>> I am working on my first 13D system now. The problem I am having is 
>> the water purveyor will not install a tap of less than 4" (they can 
>> be forced to a 2 1/2" by their "policy") when there is a fire system 
>> involved.
>> THEN The building department wants it reviewed to 13R as they have 
>> never dealt with a 13D system. It is on the third review...
>>
>> Wednesday, June 11, 2008, 10:59:04 AM, you wrote:
>>
>> > Just wondering if others are seeing excessive water demands for 13D
>> systems
>> > by AHJ's? We see 4 head design requirements with 0.10 Gpm/Sf for 
>> > slope ceilings over 8/12. This is the same as a 13 system in 
>> > residential occupancy, yet these two systems are not intended to 
>> > provide the
>> same level
>> > of protection.
>>
>> > Thom McMahon, SET
>> > Firetech, Inc.
>> > 2560 Copper Ridge Dr
>> > P.O. Box 882136
>> > Steamboat Springs, CO 80488
>> > Tel:  970-879-7952
>> > Fax: 970-879-7926
>>
>>
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