Wow, it must suck to have to plan on everything after construction being done 
wrong or not at all. Seems like you should require S80 pipe with C=50 if you 
want it to last 100 years.

Ron Fletcher
Aero Automatic
Phoenix, AZ   

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Rod,
We at GSA still adhere to this velocity limit.  However, we don't do it
because of equation breakdown or some other esoteric reason.  We do it
simply to insure that we get larger piping.  Since we do not really
maintain our system very well and numerous changes and additions are made
to our systems by everybody and their dog, we need all of the help we can
get.  This is just one of the ways.

Since our buildings are supposed to last 100 years, we also start with a
C-factor of 100 and reassess it in the future to see if it needs to be
lowered again.  We only use fire pumps where absolutely necessary to
overcome elevation loss.  Our fire pumps are not sized to reduce pipe sizes
nor for providing the NFPA 14 pressures and flows at the top of standpipes.
The fire pump is sized for the sprinkler system only.

We are not that old fashioned, just that conservative.

Rahe Loftin PE
GSA Region 7

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