Contract issues aside, if I religiously go to the Ford dealer to have my oil changed etc and I later learn that I've had recalled brakes for the past 10 years and I missed a FREE replacement program, I'm going to be very disgruntled with the dealer
Sent from my iPhone On Sep 9, 2013, at 11:25 AM, "Steve Leyton" <[email protected]> wrote: > Good point, but a qualified inspector also has special expertise which > may lend itself to recognizing such products in the field. A really > good corollary question is what to do about it from the inspector's > point of view. If identifying recalled products is outside the scope of > the standard, does the inspector report it to the AHJ as a "concern" or > a "deficiency"? Many jurisdictions want to know, and they might > exercise their authority to compel the owner to remediate. Some even > have ordinance to that effect, in which case the inspector has a hook to > hang their hat on. > > Steve Leyton > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of > Roland Huggins > Sent: Monday, September 09, 2013 8:01 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: Central Recall Comments P>S> > > Interesting since NFPA 25 does not require the inspector to identify > recalled products. It's the responsibility of the owner. As such, > either the requirement to look for them was in the contract or Walgreens > was a big customer for this guy so they "voluntarily" bit the bullet. > > Roland > > > > > On Sep 6, 2013, at 2:34 PM, [email protected] wrote: > >> >> Chris, et al: >> >> >> Thank you for that Code update, Chris...Here's one for you: Some years > back (when we held the Walgreen's sprinkler inspection account for NM), > I attended a Walgreen's annual Corporate LP/FP meeting at their > headquarters in Deerfield. "Recalls" were on the docket. I was told at > that meeting that one of the contractors (present) for other States did > NOT report recalls in one (or more) Walgreen's Stores in that State > (Eastern U.S.). The "free" replacement period had passed. That sprinkler > contractor ended up paying - out of pocket - for the replacements (at > Walgreen's "urging" I am sure). >> >> >> >> Just food for thought? >> >> >> Regards- >> >> >> Jerry >> [email protected] >> Santa Fe, New Mexico USA >> (800) 503.1961 nationwide >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Cahill, Christopher <[email protected]> >> To: sprinklerforum <[email protected]> >> Sent: Fri, Sep 6, 2013 3:14 pm >> Subject: RE: Central Recall Comments >> >> >> It was voluntary in regards to the Consumer Product Safety Commission. > >> CPSC has never issued a mandatory recall, they are all voluntary >> technically. That aside it wasn't voluntary any more once the IFC >> kicked in 2006. If you are under that or newer they are required to >> be replaced. If you find one today it must be replaced under IFC >> 901.9 ('06, '09, '12 (.10)) >> >> I'm trying to figure out if Tyco finished their work they were > responsible for. >> >> Chris Cahill, PE* >> Senior Fire Protection Engineer >> Burns & McDonnell >> 8201 Norman Center Drive >> Bloomington, MN 55437 >> Phone: 952.656.3652 >> Fax: 952.229.2923 >> [email protected] >> www.burnsmcd.com >> >> Proud to be one of FORTUNE's 100 Best Companies to Work For >> *Registered in: MN >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] >> [mailto:[email protected]] >> On Behalf Of [email protected] >> Sent: Friday, September 06, 2013 4:00 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: Central Recall Comments >> >> Chris, et al: >> >> >> Regarding the "recall" - I seem to 'recall' (?) (and still hear) the >> term "voluntary" used before the (TYCO/CENTRAL GB) recall...And, yes, >> I suspect there are probably (still) at least a few million of those > sprinklers "in service". >> >> >> >> Regards to all- >> >> >> >> Jerry >> >> >> [email protected] >> >> >> Jerry D. Watts, SFPE >> President & Co-Founder >> ACCENT FIRE ENGINEERING INT'L. Ltd.* >> Santa Fe, New Mexico USA >> (800) 503.1961 nationwide >> >> >> *Licensed Fire Engineers-Architects/Inspectors/Investigators: AZ CA >> CO NM NV NY TX UT KS MD MS >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Cahill, Christopher <[email protected]> >> To: sprinklerforum <[email protected]> >> Sent: Fri, Sep 6, 2013 2:45 pm >> Subject: Central Recall >> >> >> Yes, I know this expired back in '07. Or at least Tyco paying for >> replacements expired, the heads are still recalled. The question is >> have all submitted claims been replaced? 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