Ditto...NFPA 3 and 4 may pick up the slack. If I was a fire marshal without money or resources, I sure'd be looking long and hard at what I could get from yearly audits of the life safety systems from a qualified / certified firm. Its not just about 25...
Steven Scandaliato, SET CFPS 520.971.2322 Cell Skype: steven.scandaliato -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Roland Huggins Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 1:19 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: NFPA25 scope I agree there are PROBLEMS but I don't see a total disagreement in what you wrote. Maybe it's in how we fix the problem. My adamant position is that it is a code enforcement issue, not an NFPA issue and damn sure not a NFPA 25 issue. Roland Roland Huggins, PE - VP Engineering American Fire Sprinkler Assn. --- Fire Sprinklers Saves Lives Dallas, TX http://www.firesprinkler.org On Nov 7, 2013, at 1:14 PM, Scott A Futrell <[email protected]> wrote: > IMHO Roland, if I understand you correctly, I respectfully totally disagree. We do not have anything in place, at any level, to verify the design, installation, inspection, testing, or maintenance of existing or new sprinkler systems. Technically, the legally adopted Fire Codes give the AHJ the power and authority, but they don't have the time, money, or people power to thoroughly review plans, inspect structures, and then review and inspect inspection, testing, and maintenance reports. Contractors don't do their own peer reviews before sending out plans or reviewing their own installations. Engineers (except for some FPE's) don't review installations. Owners don't have a clue about IT&M requirements and how changes they or hired GC's affect sprinkler systems, and field inspections will not turn up the things others have mentioned and I see frequently. EVEN if you give the owner a copy of NFPA 25 what percentage of them understand everything in the Standard and every i mplication to their system(s). The things I see very frequently do end up costing contractors (because they screwed up OR defending themselves when they did it right) and owners (because it was wrong originally, they weren't told, OR because they didn't do something(s) they should have) a great deal of time and money because someone hasn't done something that IS in the Standard. Insurance pays for a lot, but insurance goes up and insurance doesn't cover all the lost time and revenue. > > See you in Chicago? It should be spirited! > > Scott Futrell > _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org
