I'm not sure you had any answers for your question before the thread was 
hijacked.

In the long-term many things can go wrong with an underground main that is 'in 
a trench' or under a floor. I've witnessed the problems with underground water 
mains under floors and the cost to make repairs, and business down time, can be 
significant. Doors not large enough for excavators to get into the building, 
ceiling heights too low to allow a backhoe to dig deep enough, <$1M / day 
business interruption because the main could be repaired without digging up the 
floor in the building, and more.

Scott

Office: (763) 425-1001 x 12
Cell: (612) 759-5556

-----Original Message-----
From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:[email protected]] On 
Behalf Of Plumbco
Sent: Friday, December 05, 2014 6:08 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: Existing Underground

I have a customer with an existing unheated building that has an 8" ductile 
underground serving 2 Dry Valves.

The underground enters the building in the center of the east side of the 
building.

Let's call this a 200' x 200' building. Now they want to put a 80' x 200'
addition on the east side of the existing building.

I know that the underground on a new building has to be run in an exposed 
trench if it is located within the building.

What is the forums opinion on leaving the existing underground where it is as 
part of the future expansion.

Is there anything in the IBC that addresses this.

On several occasion in the past I have had them shorten the underground in 
scenarios like this and modify the mains within the building , this was on 
light and ordinary hazard wet systems.

In this proposed scenario it is a Class 4 commodity to 26' and I am not sure 
the calculations will work as well as interior elevation problems.

The underground pipe is 8" class 52 ductile. The main drain and FDC are not an 
issue as I have a way to get them to an acceptable exterior wall. 

Any help or advise on this would be appreciated.

Bill Cunningham

Plumbco Inc

CET

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