This is totally lose the battle to win the war. Travis Mack, SET MFP Design, LLC "Follow" us on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/pages/MFP-Design-LLC/92218417692 Send large files to MFP Design via: https://www.hightail.com/u/MFPDesign
Sent from my iPhone > On May 8, 2017, at 8:14 AM, Steve Leyton <[email protected]> wrote: > > To the AHJ’s comment that you’ll do it his way or else, I would offer (and I > disclaim this opinion as even remotely expert with regard to the laws in > other states) that the AHJ is wrong if the implication is that he or she can > just arbitrarily throw out requirements as it suits them. Codes are adopted > by states and imposed by a code of regulations. These codes are used by > municipalities on a statutory basis, so amending them or creating more > restrictive policies requires an ordinance. If the city doesn’t have a > published policy for this special inspection or any of these other practices, > I would proffer that it’s not legal in that city for them to drop the hammer > without due process. They need to publish at least a policy bulletin (that > precedes the date of your submittal) with these requirements in order to > ordain them. > > You can appeal this to the fire chief, senior building official, city manager > or mayor’s office (depending on form of government) and you might very well > win. But of course you’ll have started a war that we all find that we end up > losing ... > > MY OPINION ONLY, > > Steve L. > > From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:[email protected]] > On Behalf Of Travis Mack > Sent: Monday, May 08, 2017 6:25 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: special inspections > > Sorry I don't have one. This has never been required. The city form we were > instructed to use has nothing about this either. > > This ahj has not done this in the past. He also had some other comments that > were unusual. When we called about these, his answer was "I'm the ahj. I > require it my way. You will comply or no permit." > > At that point you know you are going to lose every battle. > > Travis Mack, SET > MFP Design, LLC > "Follow" us on Facebook: > https://www.facebook.com/pages/MFP-Design-LLC/92218417692 > Send large files to MFP Design via: > https://www.hightail.com/u/MFPDesign > > Sent from my iPhone > > On May 8, 2017, at 5:47 AM, Triolo, Joe <[email protected]> wrote: > > I think it’s a good idea, Travis do you have a copy you could send me? > Thanks > > Joe Triolo > > From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:[email protected]] > On Behalf Of Pete Schwab > Sent: Monday, May 08, 2017 8:32 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: RE: special inspections > > Travis > I wish more AHJ’s would require this. Then we might see GC’s opt to go with > Interstitial Sprinklers instead. > Pete > > Peter Schwab > VP of Purchasing and Engineering technologies > > Wayne Automatic Fire Sprinklers Inc. > 222 Capitol Court > Ocoee, Fl 34761 > > Mobile: (407) 468-8248 > Direct: (407) 877-5570 > Fax: (407) 656-8026 > > www.waynefire.com > > <image001.jpg> > > I sleep in a sprinklered home, do you? > > > > From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:[email protected]] > On Behalf Of Travis Mack, SET > Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2017 5:09 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: special inspections > > Has anyone run into a case where the AHJ requires a special inspection form > filled for when the interstitial space is filled entirely with > non-combustible insulation? > > It is fairly common in this area for Type V construction multi-family > projects to have the interstitial spaces, and sometimes flat attic spaces, to > be filled entirely with non-combustible insulation in lieu of providing fire > sprinklers in the area. However, we have one local AHJ that is mandating > this is a condition that requires a special inspection form. It's a done > deal because he flat out stated that it is our way and this is how it will > be. I just wonder if anyone else has run into this. We are in the process > of investigating what all is required. It seems that we will need a > professional engineer to go out and sign off that all insulation is filling > the cavity entirely. > > > > -- > Travis Mack, SET > MFP Design, LLC > 2508 E Lodgepole Drive > Gilbert, AZ 85298 > 480-505-9271 > fax: 866-430-6107 > email:[email protected] > > http://www.mfpdesign.com > https://www.facebook.com/pages/MFP-Design-LLC/92218417692 > Send large files to us via: https://www.hightail.com/u/MFPDesign > LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/travismack > > > > This email has been checked for viruses by AVG antivirus software. > www.avg.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > Sprinklerforum mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org > _______________________________________________ > Sprinklerforum mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org
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