I should have clarified that I meant the square foot limitation on miscellaneous storage if chapters 14-17 of 2016 kick you back to chapter 13 and the space can be classified as "low piled storage".
Bruce _____ From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Rocci 3 Cetani via Sprinklerforum Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2020 10:51 AM To: [email protected] Cc: Rocci 3 Cetani; Parsley Consulting Subject: RE: Misc. Storage This one is intriguing to me.. If chapter 13 designates it an OH2 shouldn't a system be allowed to be @ 52,000 sqft regardless of rack storage? Rocci Cetani III, CET Senior Designer Water-Based Fire Protections Systems Layout, Nicet Level III Northern California Fire Protection Services Inc. 16840 Joleen Way Bldg. A Morgan Hill, CA 93037 P-(408) 776-1580 EXT.111 F-(408) 776-1590 [email protected] www.norcalfire.com <http://www.norcalfire.com/> CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This message and any document accompanying it may contain confidential information belonging to the sender. The information is intended only for the use of individual or entity named above. If you are not the intended recipient, or the employee or agent responsible to deliver this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying or taking of any action in reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited. If you have received this transmission in error, please immediately notify us by telephone to arrange for return of the documents. From: Sprinklerforum <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Parsley Consulting via Sprinklerforum Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2020 7:46 AM To: Bruce Hermanson via Sprinklerforum <[email protected]> Cc: Parsley Consulting <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Misc. Storage Not quite, Bruce. >From the 2019 edition: What Brian was asking about was rack storage, so I would believe item 5 would still apply, regardless of the storage height. Ken Wagoner, SET Parsley Consulting 350 West 9th Avenue, Suite 206 Escondido, California 92025 Phone 760-745-6181 Visit the website <http://www.parsleyconsulting.com/> On 01/30/2020 3:35 AM, Bruce Hermanson via Sprinklerforum wrote: I believe the square foot limitation was removed in 2016 when the chapter when Chapter 13 was listed as miscellaneous and low piled storage. Bruce Hermanson TSFP Holdings, Inc. _____ From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Vince Sabolik via Sprinklerforum Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2020 12:18 PM To: [email protected] Cc: Vince Sabolik Subject: Re: Misc. Storage Aren't there square footage limitations as well? On 1/29/2020 11:03 AM, Skyler Bilbo via Sprinklerforum wrote: Take a look at section 16.2.1.2. I believe in your case, the Misc. Storage criteria does apply. However, for Class IV commodities on racks 10-12 ft tall, the criteria is EH1, per the Misc. Storage Table 13.2.1. I believe where the biggest confusion, and the importance of the definition comes into play, is with plastic storage over 5 feet, but under 12 feet. There is not equivalent language to 16.2.1.2 in the plastic storage chapters... Skyler Bilbo <https://docs.google.com/uc?export=download&id=1Ot_QzTy6mc49_wnkJ-aKoPIBtkiv O1gI&revid=0B1MzybbUMAWgNWRUNW03MkcyNkh4c0d4VXZMS0ZuQ2cvVzlFPQ> 1700 S. Raney Street Effingham, IL 62401 217-819-6404 Direct 217-347-7315 Fax [email protected] www.wenteplumbing.com On Wed, Jan 29, 2020 at 9:44 AM Brian Harris via Sprinklerforum <[email protected]> wrote: Just want to confirm per the definition of Misc. Storage (3.9.1.18 NFPA 2013) that just because something is stored less than 12' high doesn't automatically make it misc. storage. Working on a project that is 42,000 sq.ft. and the owner is storing Class I-IV commodities on double row racks. Says he was told as long as he doesn't exceed 12' high he only needs OH-2 protection at the ceiling. Brian Harris, CET BVS Systems Inc. Design Manager bvssystemsinc.com <http://bvssystemsinc.com/> Phone: 704.896.9989 Fax: 704.896.1935 _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org -- 11351 Pearl Road / Suite 101 Strongsville, Ohio 44136 Phone 440 238-4800 Fax 440 238-4876 Cell 440 724-7601 Vince Sabolik _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org
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