Ok, but this would basically fall under the room design method in 13 then and not require a phantom flow, unless I'm missing something, I have never added a phantom flow to a paint booth.
Thanks Brett Peters General Manager Installation & Design Proudline Fire Protection Services Ltd. [email protected] 780 490 7602 office ext 202 780 490 7605 fax 780 777 0568 cell 780 718 2676 24h Visit us at www.proudline.ca Proudline now offers ULc listed monitoring services, please contact [email protected] for more information On Fri, Mar 31, 2023 at 2:30 PM <[email protected]> wrote: > Brett, I respectfully disagree. Well I agree but. > > > > 33 tells you how much. > > > > The procedure is still per 13. > > > > This is normally the case with other standards when it comes to performing > calcs or hanging etc. > > > > R/ > > Matt > > > > *Please rate our customer service > <https://survey.medallia.com/?emailsignature&fc=3539&bg=Fire%20and%20Fabrication>* > > > > *Matthew J. Willis, CWBSP, CET* > > *Engineering Designer IV* > > *FERGUSON FIRE DESIGN, LLC* > > *A Wholly Owned Subsidiary of Ferguson Fire & Fabrication, LLC* > > 401 N 5th Street > > Suite 448 > > Wausau, WI 54403 > > C: 307-236-8249 > > *[email protected] <[email protected]>* > > *www.FergusonFire.com <http://www.fergusonfire.com/>* > > > > *From:* Brett Peters <[email protected]> > *Sent:* Friday, March 31, 2023 2:24 PM > *To:* Discussion list on issues relating to automatic fire sprinklers < > [email protected]> > *Subject:* [Sprinklerforum] Re: Paint Booths Calculation > > > > In most cases the booth is smaller than the design area needs to be so > every booth I've ever designed has been every sprinkler in the booth and > throughout the plenum and exhaust, so you would be calculating the booth > according to NFPA 33 not NFPA 13, the phantom flow is for NFPA 13 > calculations > > > > NFPA 33 > > 9.6.2.1 The sprinkler design area shall not be required to exceed the > area of the booth or room in which spraying or resin application is > conducted. > > 9.6.5 The sprinkler system shall be controlled by a separate, listed > indicating valve(s), operable from floor level. > > 9.6.6 > > (6) The system demand shall include the discharge from the hydraulically > most remote adjacent sprinklers in a common 30.5 m (100 linear ft) area of > duct (horizontal and/or vertical). > > (4) Sprinklers shall provide a minimum flow of 114 L/min (30 gpm) per > sprinkler at a minimum of 1 bar (15 psi) pressure. > > > > > > Thanks > > > > Brett Peters > > General Manager Installation & Design > > Proudline Fire Protection Services Ltd. > > [email protected] > > 780 490 7602 office ext 202 > > 780 490 7605 fax > > 780 777 0568 cell > > 780 718 2676 24h > > Visit us at www.proudline.ca > > > > Proudline now offers ULc listed monitoring services, please contact > [email protected] for more information > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Mar 31, 2023 at 12:41 PM Anthony Johnson < > [email protected]> wrote: > > As an additional note NFPA 2019: 26.4.1.3 says that the sprinkler design > area shall not be required to exceed the area of the booth so my question > basically becomes is it still neccessary to add a phantom flow for the > difference of flow? > > > > Anthony > > > > > <http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail> > > Virus-free.www.avg.com > <http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail> > > > _________________________________________________________ > SprinklerForum mailing list: > https://lists.firesprinkler.org/list/sprinklerforum.lists.firesprinkler.org > To unsubscribe send an email to > [email protected] > > > _________________________________________________________ > SprinklerForum mailing list: > https://lists.firesprinkler.org/list/sprinklerforum.lists.firesprinkler.org > To unsubscribe send an email to > [email protected] >
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