I dug into the web interface for the T-mobile router.  I can basically
turn off big parts of what it is currently doing.  There are 12 SSID's. 
1-4 are 2.4 and 5-12 are 5.0.

I played around with only using 2.4 for SB's network but that didn't
help.

Now, I am wondering if I can essentially turn off the t-mobile router
capability by unchecking "enable SSId" and "broadcast SSID" on all those
12 SSID's.  The problem with that seems that I won't be able to get to
the interface on the web to control anything after the last critical
click.  My laptop won't be able to get on the Tmobile wifi to control
the router.

But I was thinking it might be worth a shot to turn off as much as
possible on the Tmobile router and trying the Orbi again to connect
everything with less interference?

Am I being too simplistic?

Currently I have turned off and unhooked Orbi to see if SB's stay
connected to T-mobile like they used to...  If they do, I will turn on
Orbi without internet connection and see what that does.


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